Post-Game Talk: Olive Gardens defeats the Outback Steakhouse

[My3Sons]

I'd like to wait until the calendar year to extend him, but I wouldn't hate if we re-signed him for 2 years @ $2.5 million per. Goalie depth is very questionable beyond Kinkaid and really questionable beyond Kinkaid and Schneider, and even Kinkaid himself is still a bit questionable, which is why I'd rather wait until the new year.

I do think we might have come to the point where Kinkaid is the organization's best goaltender, but more so because of not being much of a believer in Cory anymore, than Kinkaid now being really good.

If KK is playing this well come January I’d be surprised if he takes a team friendly deal. This is his chance at a big payday and I don’t blame him for trying to get every nickel he can.

 

[Bleedred]

I just hope Sideshow Will is okay. Although since he doesn't play "real" defensemen minutes we should be okay.

We will sadly notice a difference without him.

Santini (and god forbid Gryba) just aren't anywhere near as good as he is. Not even close.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

How long was Mueller out with the collar bone last season?

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Remember when the Rangers were going to be much better than us?

They won tonight. Better watch out.

 

[BenedictGomez]

I'm pretty much anti-Boyle but have to admit that he's looked good in his role(s) so far.

Agreed.

That said, I'm (sadly) a believer in reversion to the mean, and I still think he's too slow to be most effective in that slow on this team.

Even on the 4th-line, the players he's skating with leave Boyle in the dust on the rush.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

We will sadly notice a difference without him.

Santini (and god forbid Gryba) just aren't anywhere near as good as he is. Not even close.

This is why I'd rather see Yakovlev.

 

[Bleedred]

Some will never be convinced.

I mean, I don't think he's a star goalie, but he seems to be a solid one.

I do think he's now better than Schneider, which is very sacrilege to say around here, as many really think that Cory isn't as bad as the last two years, but he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt after two years like that.

 

[BenedictGomez]

How long was Mueller out with the collar bone last season?

A little over a month. Five weeks I believe.

 

[JimEIV]

Vatanen/Mueller have only been on for 1 goal against in 4 games, playing against the other team's #1 lines.

Not too shabby.

Only 3 Even Strength goals have been scored against us. Lol.

 

[Bleedred]

This is why I'd rather see Yakovlev.

I wasn't really impressed by him either.

 

[AveryQuietMan]

Agreed.

That said, I'm (sadly) a believer in reversion to the mean, and I still think he's too slow to be most effective in that slow on this team.

Even on the 4th-line, the players he's skating with leave Boyle in the dust on the rush.

for some reason hes keeping up with them.

that might not be the case in a month or two but hes giving his all.

we cant be a team full of super small guys. it just wont work

rest him and let stafford have a game here and there and we might get this going.

 

[MadDevil]

Some will never be convinced.

I mean, a 28-29 year old career backup suddenly playing like a starter isn't exactly a common occurrence. I don't blame anybody for still having some skepticism. I myself am not entirely convinced yet.

 

[Billdo]

Everyone slotted us up there after the preseason.

But Florida... they're going to be the next dynasty

 

[Devilswede]

Losing Butcher would be a major blow. And it looks like we'll be without him for a while...

He's a vital cog on our PP. I don't know how he's going to be replaced.

 

[severian]

A little over a month. Five weeks I believe.

He was hurt Nov 12 and came back Jan 30.

 

[AveryQuietMan]

I mean, a 28-29 year old career backup suddenly playing like a starter isn't exactly a common occurrence. I don't blame anybody for still having some skepticism. I myself am not entirely convinced yet.

sounds just like cory..... was he a starter before he got here?

 

[TheUnseenHand]

I wasn't really impressed by him either.

I wasn't impressed, but he can at least keep up with the pace. Gryba makes Butcher look like a burner and Santini isn't much better.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Lets wait and see before writing Butcher’s obit

 

[BenedictGomez]

Skeletor singing the praises of Vatanen/Mueller now in the Postgame. Hopefully their sold play against #1 lines stays a thing and isnt a mirage.

 

[hayen]

I mean, I don't think he's a star goalie, but he seems to be a solid one.

I do think he's now better than Schneider, which is very sacrilege to say around here, as many really think that Cory isn't as bad as the last two years, but he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt after two years like that.

I'm not comparing Cory. Cory deserves a lot of credit. many goalies build a career on a couple good years. Keith's work over the years has paid off and deserves our respect and confidence.

 

[Bleedred]

If KK is playing this well come January I’d be surprised if he takes a team friendly deal. This is his chance at a big payday and I don’t blame him for trying to get every nickel he can.

Carter Hutton just got 3 years and $8.25 million, so I'd say that's a comparable.

I can't see Kinkaid getting more than 3 years @ $3 million per year, I just can't. I would give him 2 years @ $2.5 million right now, maybe slightly more if he's maintaining strong play by the new calendar year.

 

[Classic Devil]

Skeletor singing the praises of Vatanen/Mueller now in the Postgame. Hopefully their sold play against #1 lines stays a thing and isnt a mirage.

Vatanen isn't doing anything he didn't already do last year. The question is Mueller.

 

[hayen]

I mean, a 28-29 year old career backup suddenly playing like a starter isn't exactly a common occurrence. I don't blame anybody for still having some skepticism. I myself am not entirely convinced yet.

That's you I guess

 

[Blender]

Lets wait and see before writing Butcher’s obit

Exactly. Why sit around here debating what may happen without Butcher when we have no idea how long he'll be out, if he will even be out at all.

 

[Bleedred]

I'm not comparing Cory. Cory deserves a lot of credit. many goalies build a career on a couple good years. Keith's work over the years has paid off and deserves our respect and confidence.

I think he deserves our respect and confidence right now too, but will he deserve our confidence in 2-3 years from now? That's what we need to think about when re-signing him.

Regardless, I still won't be convinced that this isn't a one-off if Cory does turn out to have a great year. I think he might have one more good year in him, but I just think it won't be sustained.