Hi chaps, Im new to football, but I really enjoying it. Im from europe, big time hockey fan, cant watch nhl anymore because its so boring. coming from country where basketball is close nr 1 to hockey NBA has become my favourite weeknight interest. what i want to know - what is old time football? in relation to what hockey has lost. because, maybe the shithead Batman is right? football is enough violent to me, maybe nowadays hockey is enough violent to people new to the game?