I bet if Bear played vs Flames the last 2 games he would have played atleast 10 more mins than Bouchard total averaging well over 20mins.If Bear was out in the playins we would of done better to. Yup, hes been a disaster, and a main reason a player like Barrie was moved in here.
Im fine with Bear staying in Edmonton but hes a bottom pairing D man, been already passed by Bouchard.
I hope it never happens and Bouchard-Bear becomes a legit thing. There is no need to drag our players through mud just to make one sound better. They are all OilersI hope to still see you post when Barrie and Nurse stop scoring goals at twice their xGF.
Nurse/Bear had a HDCF/60 of almost 18.
Nurse/Barrie have a HDCF/60 of 8.55.
And dont let me even get into the defensive analytics, because Barrie has been dragging Nurse down a ton there.
I think a Bouchard/Bear pairing could be a very good third pairing for us.I hope it never happens and Bouchard-Bear becomes a legit thing. There is no need to drag our players through mud just to make one sound better. They are all Oilers
So you think the team is winning because of bear was out.
When bear was in, he was 4th on the team in GF% at 62.5%.
Maybe our bottom six was the reason we started out 3-6, with studs like turris rocking a 21% GF.
Koekkoek rocking a 25% GF even though being labelled our second best D to start the season by many posters here <- LOL
Bear also had the 3rd highest HDCF% behing RNH and McDavid to start the year, the highest SCF%.
He also had the fourth highest xGF% at 61, meaning his results were where they should of been, and wasn't unlucky/lucky.
You are reading into advanced stats way too much IMO. Oilers are the hottest team in the league right now and Barrie/Nurse are the hottest D pairing. Chances schmances... bottom line is Barrie and nurse put the puck in the net.I hope to still see you post when Barrie and Nurse stop scoring goals at twice their xGF.
Nurse/Bear had a HDCF/60 of almost 18.
Nurse/Barrie have a HDCF/60 of 8.55.
And dont let me even get into the defensive analytics, because Barrie has been dragging Nurse down a ton there.
Bouchard will pass them all.If Bear was out in the playins we would of done better to. Yup, hes been a disaster, and a main reason a player like Barrie was moved in here.
Im fine with Bear staying in Edmonton but hes a bottom pairing D man, been already passed by Bouchard.
Drool. Love it.I think a Bouchard/Bear pairing could be a very good third pairing for us.
Nurse - Barrie
Lagesson - Larsson
Bouchard - Bear
Yeah if he is willing to understand the cap world out there, and negotiates in good faith, I think you need to try and keep him. This is the player we have been begging for, for how long?
If Klefbom is healthy next year, honestly I think getting Barrie and Larsson locked in is more important than spending big on a goalie.
I have argued over and over that while there are certainly different skill levels, a goaltender is often a product of what is infront on him. Look at Markstrom getting lit up a few times lately.
Nurse-Barrie
Kelfbom-Larsson
Broberg-Bouchard
That is an incredibly strong group.
I’m on the opposite side of the fence. The thing is you can probably get Larsson for less than he’s making now while Barrie will cost quite a lot more. I think in the next couple Bouchard will be better than Barrie if not close. Larsson does things our other D don’t. I’d rather keep Larsson.If I'm picking between Larsson and Barrie I let Larsson walk or get traded (maybe a deal with Seattle?)
Lagesson looks ready for some mins.
I'd go Klef / Barrie
Nurse / Bear
Lagesson / Bouch
and either Jones or Koekkoek as #7
Absolutely need to keep Barrie for a couple more years (if he keeps this up)
And if we are ready to contend this year:I think a Bouchard/Bear pairing could be a very good third pairing for us.
Nurse - Barrie
Lagesson - Larsson
Bouchard - Bear
Sounds great! Not sure why the Blues do this though...I'd re-sign Larsson for cheap and package Barrie for Parayko.
Especially considering that one is a UFA, and they literally just signed an almost identical player in Krug to a massive deal...Sounds great! Not sure why the Blues do this though...
Then let the jokes keep on rolling because that top pairing has been leading the charge from the back end for the last 12 games.Barrie on the top pairing is a joke. The guys constantly dominated physically in his own end. I also under no circumstances would be pairing two rookies together. As much flack as a guy like Russel gets for good reason of his contract having him paired with a rookie in the bottom pair covers a lot of defensive mistakes. There's a reason why Bouchard and Jones aren't in the lineup at the same time.
Especially considering that one is a UFA, and they literally just signed an almost identical player in Krug to a massive deal...
The Oilers I think will have to choose between Barrie and Larsson this offseason, If they don’t move one of Bear/Bouchard, and I wouldn’t want to make that choice with how those 2 have been playing and not to mention 2 opposite skill sets that are both needed to win.
Coffey did the same thing. The key, is that these types of players do way more of the good offensive stuff than the odd defensive goofup.Some here can only see Barrie's defensive shortcomings. Yep, he's not great or 1st pair quality at defending, but he has a rare offensive skillset that meshes really well with the 2 best players on the planet. He is like have an extra 1st line forward out there lol. High event rover, yes, but highly entertaining
But how can Nurse's agent make an argument he deserves more than his teammate who just won the Hart/Lindsay/Ross and is clearly a top 3 player in the league?No what scares me is that Barrie is not good enough defensively to go head to head against top forwards. Nurse-Barrie pairing would mean he would have to.
Down the road Bouchard can replace Barrie on PP and Bear can at ES alongside Nurse.
It may be in 5yrs or it might be 5 weeks. Lets see how things pan out and just enjoy the ride.
We dont even know what he would be demanding. Just saying if its close to 7M then expect Nurse to demand more money than what Draisaitl is making.