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GDT: Oilers Rookies vs Nait/MacEwan All Star Squad 7pm MT Rogers Place
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I know it's different .... but still: whenever hockey prices come into discussion I will always remember that just a few years ago I got decent to good tickets for Inter - Milan (derby in Serie A) and Inter - Barcelona (semis in champions league) for around 20 EUR a piece.
Hockey prices are so damn high. I get there is a certain number of seats and the market/demand rules but still... For a game like this... Now they are charging 10 eur to come to Gothenburg and watch the Oilers practice the day before the game vs NJD (tickets for the game were 150 eur minimum iirc, sold out of course).
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Ever take a look at what the Oilers charge for management fees for the foundation?
Katz/Mandel and cronies don't miss a trick to line their pockets
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I've criticized the same. The administration of these proceeds are sick. A smaller proportion than anybody would think ends up with the foundation.
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I don't see it continuing endlessly. Somewhere along the line sports became a religion. With fans lining up to throw money at it. A shift will occur, and I think it is, and that varying cohorts or walks of life are just saying no to it. I don't pay for this. Most of pro sports has overpriced itself and deserves what it gets.
But on the local scene the armor is crinkling. Ottawa is imploding, fans walking away in droves refusing to support the club.
Here in Edmonton for the first time in decades the team will not be able to state sellouts with a straight face and interestingly single game tickets are LOWER priced than they have been in years (this despite STH prices going up) The Oilers are really screwing this up. They're pissing off STH and even their waitlist. Its just easier to buy single game tickets now or resales for cheap.
This is not a great situation for the Oilers but its a deserved one.
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As the EOCF relies primarily on events to raise funds, and not direct donations, their fundraising costs are on par with similar organizations.
The EOCF's administration costs run at about 2-2.3 percent of revenues, which is a very good number. It's their fundraising costs that skew the overall cost numbers.
And, no, Katz and Mandel are not "lining the pockets" with money from the EOCF...Jesus.
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Here is last years CIS nationals. They had it 4 years in a row in my area (Atlantic Canada). It draws very well here. Great fast hockey.
Men’s Hockey
UNB and Alberta have won the last 6 championships. They scout very well
David Johnston University Cup - Wikipedia
GMac uses the smaller rink attached to Rogers and are in the neighborhood. GMac on its own isn't even close to good enough to play them so they figured throw Nait in there too and grab the best guys and go for it.
UofA would be the whole team or none as one of their greatest strengths is their system play and the team as a whole
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Just because this is being questioned heres the facts;
Edmonton Oilers Community Foundation
The foundation themselves had felt they needed to work on more money going directly to the charity, AFTER criticism occurred around the amount being LESS than 50% in multiple reporting years. So that not surprisingly 2017 saw the most going to the charities of any year posted.
see the small graph on the side entitled "cents to the cause"
But again 2017 being AFTER there was criticism of the administration and management of the fund.
Note also the Oilers community foundation charity rating was 1/4 stars and a +C rating, take fwiw but this is the most independent and respected view you will find on charities research.
The argument that all such funds have inefficiency is perfectly valid, which is why people should donate DIRECT to the causes whenever possible INSTEAD of Middleman funders.
just my 2 cents
Also, this is relevant to the gdt in question in case anybody is questioning this being here. But lets get back to Oilers prospects anyway.
Edmonton Oilers Community Foundation
The foundation themselves had felt they needed to work on more money going directly to the charity, AFTER criticism occurred around the amount being LESS than 50% in multiple reporting years. So that not surprisingly 2017 saw the most going to the charities of any year posted.
see the small graph on the side entitled "cents to the cause"
But again 2017 being AFTER there was criticism of the administration and management of the fund.
Note also the Oilers community foundation charity rating was 1/4 stars and a +C rating, take fwiw but this is the most independent and respected view you will find on charities research.
The argument that all such funds have inefficiency is perfectly valid, which is why people should donate DIRECT to the causes whenever possible INSTEAD of Middleman funders.
just my 2 cents
Also, this is relevant to the gdt in question in case anybody is questioning this being here. But lets get back to Oilers prospects anyway.
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Drivesaitl
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Agreed on all. UofA system play set it apart from most. Would not be the same just to add on some players. to that degree I wonder if the "Allstars are far inferior to what either Nait or Gmac would bring just as their own teams. Looked like the Nait goalie was better.
Maybe you're right, I hope you are. But I doubt it. Ottawa is .... well a shit show right now for so many reasons, but they'll move stadium, re-locate or just bounce back in 5 years or so and folks will pay again.
People are too fickle and subject to the massive PR spending some will keep on buying (probably not the real supporters in the end). Even in Sweden though lately about 30% of tickets are bought by companies giving them away to clients/friends etc. For me that's a lot considering that their interest obvioisly raises the price/market for the remaining tickets.
I guess McD probably saved edm from going full Ottawa, so that's something. Imagine the fan base without him... Imagine we would have drafted at 3rd OV: Dylan Strome ... Drai is a beast but I don't know that he alone would have been able to drag the franchaise out of the sewers.
Pissing off STH is something I think too many hockey teams lately, not only in the NHL. "Since you're already here, and since we know you'll be back again"
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To note that the illustrious Alberta Golden Bears have appeared 21 times and won 16 times, and invariably on the road, travelling usually the farthest of any team to get there.
At times the tournament even has some whacked out formats where the home team gets preferential first matches and the Bears, almost always topteam in the nation get tough teams from the start.
The Bears should be the team facing the Oilers Rooks. Next to the Oilers the Bears are the best team in town. The best non professional club in Alberta probably.
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Drivesaitl
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In fairness the Football program is about on par historically, and among the best in the west. Just not recently.
But all other UofA teams fare really well nationally. CIS dominance, really, and with hockey being the profile CIS sport.
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To note that the illustrious Alberta Golden Bears have appeared 21 times and won 16 times, and invariably on the road, travelling usually the farthest of any team to get there.
At times the tournament even has some whacked out formats where the home team gets preferential first matches and the Bears, almost always topteam in the nation get tough teams from the start.
The Bears should be the team facing the Oilers Rooks. Next to the Oilers the Bears are the best team in town. The best non professional club in Alberta probably.
I have seen it here in Halifax every year and the ratings were based outta Toronto I believe. The reason it comes this way in Halifax is that it sells out almost every game involving an Atlantic team. It is going to Lethbridge in 2019 then returning to Atlantic Canada
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To note that the illustrious Alberta Golden Bears have appeared 21 times and won 16 times, and invariably on the road, travelling usually the farthest of any team to get there.
At times the tournament even has some whacked out formats where the home team gets preferential first matches and the Bears, almost always topteam in the nation get tough teams from the start.
The Bears should be the team facing the Oilers Rooks. Next to the Oilers the Bears are the best team in town. The best non professional club in Alberta probably.
Better than the Lacombe/Bentley Generals?
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Quite simple. Clare Drake doesn't make Katz any money.
The Golden Bears don't want to play the Oilers rookies at Rogers Place, they want to have it at Clare Drake where it has always been. Shame Katz and the Oilers group are that cheap really.
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