Oilers On Pace To Allow 2nd Highest GA In Franchise History

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  1. Soundwave

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    Right now we're on pace to allow 323 goals (rounded up it's actually 324, but I was being nice) against for the season.

    If that holds, that would represent the highest amount of goals the Oilers have ever surrendered in a regular season campaign with the exception of the horrible 1992-93 Oilers team.

    This is considerably worse than the recent seasons we finished last/second last and more goals against than any of those crazy, high scoring 80s seasons.

    I know people will say you can't keep blaming the coach, but how in the world have we gotten this much worse defensively? This swarm system that Eakins is employing is not working at all, even Pat Quinn's hapless Oilers of a few years ago only gave up 284.

    Goaltending is part of the issue, but this defensive system is a complete and utter disaster. The players aren't getting it.
     
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    Once upon a time I was kind of proud to cheer for this team. Now I just like them, without ACTUALLY liking them, for some odd reason...
     
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    I think it does illustrate how bad of a disaster Eakins' defensive system has been though.

    It's far worse than the Quinn/Renney/Krueger seasons' and that's saying a lot.
     
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    Craig Mactavish will be a total laughing stock if the Oilers get their 4th first overall pick this June.
     
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    The crazy thing is, even with how poor the team has been defensively for the past several years, we are on pace to allow roughly 40% more goals than last year pro-rated and the prior year.

    2012-2013: Team GAA of 2.79 which equates to 229 goals against in 82 games.
    2011-2012: 239 goals against (2.91 GAA).
    2010-2011: 269 goals against (3.28 GAA).
    2009-2010: 284 goals against (3.46 GAA).

    This year pro-rated: Team GAA of 3.95, on pace for 324 goals against!

    Even in the very very early stages of the rebuild this team wasn't bleeding goals against the way it is now.
     
  6. 40oz

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    Wow, I don't think a team has broken 300 since the lockout, although last year teams were on pace to break that if it weren't for the short season.
    Really I think they only way to really compare these is to compare it to the mean, normalize the stats to deal with fluctuations in scoring for that season.
     
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    No, last year's Krueger team was on pace to give up 228 (pro-rated to an 82 game season) goals, which actually isn't that bad.

    This year's team is on pace to give up almost 100 more goals pro-rated :laugh:

    I don't even like Krueger either nor do I want him back, but Eakins' system has been considerably worse somehow.
     
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    EDM is averaging 3.9 GA/G, the NHL's G/G last season was 5.3

    It has to be coaching. I understand this team is primarily composed of bad defensive players, but almost 4.0 GA/G is unheard of.
     
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    I really hope with the addition of Bryz we have a shot at keeping the ga under 300 for the season
     
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    I remember when it was common.



    Oh....the 1980's

    :laugh:
     
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    Too late.

    No bold moves except for giving away Smid for free.
     
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    Not really because that 1st pick will become 19 - 7 th round picks.
     
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    incorrect.

    The height of ineptitude is Philly winning the lottery and taking Ekblad.
     
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    fuswald I'd Be Fired

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    Ineptitude is that we got 3 firsts and two years later still at the bottom.
     
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    It's all Dubnyk's fault. This team has been playing super, super, super great, but goaltending keeps letting them down.
     
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    The scary thing is you aren't that far off it seems from the Oilers POV. MacT was just interviewed during the Flyers game saying he thinks the team is improving and getting better.

    So the question is A) Are they just lying to us to try and appease the fans? or is it the more frightening possibility that B) MacT actually believes what he is saying.
     
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    When i looked the other day we were on pace for 318 GA (we've since got worse :( )

    ..that would be the highest of any team since the 1995-96 San Jose Sharks

    :help:
     
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    and also relying soley on the draft to address team needs and then failing to develop or select players properly.
     
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    4.0 GAA = 328 goals

    Last time a team did that was the 1995-1996 San Jose Sharks (357 goals)

    List of other notable terrible seasons:

    1993-1994: Ottawa Senators (397), Winnipeg Jets (344)
    1992-1993: San Jose Sharks (414), Ottawa Senators (395), Hartford Whalers (369), Edmonton Oilers (337)
    1991-1992: San Jose Sharks (359)
    1990-1991: Quebec Nordiques (354)
    1989-1990: Quebec Nordiques (407), Pittsburgh Penguins (359), Toronto Maple Leafs (358), Los Angeles Kings (337), Detroit Red Wings (323)
    The 80s then have a whole lot of them.
     
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    clueless rookie GM + rookie coach with "system" that doesn't fit with players + terrible goaltending=

    horrific results in terms of GA
     
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    This thread reminded me of a quote Eakins gave during the postgame scrum in Philly that I thought should have gotten some more attention.

    Well that's just SUPER and NOT AT ALL NEEDLESSLY COMPLICATED. See, being a know-nothing fan, I would have just said that on, for example, Philly's second goal, the problem was that Hall left his man (Hartnell) alone in the slot in order to go for a skate and pray for a breakout pass, even though we didn't have possession of the puck. To a dope like me, it seems obvious that Hall literally being at center ice when Hartnell scores :)40 of the clip below) is a problem, but in reality, the problem was that one or two other guys weren't appropriately sharing Hall's man. Phew! Who knew hockey was such a complicated game!!

    I would have just assumed that essentially playing hot potato with your D-zone coverage is just a terrible plan for success, but, again what the hell do I know?

    [NHL]2013020245-304-h[/NHL]
     
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    96-97 Boston Bruins = 3.66
    97-98 Vancouver Canucks = 3.33
    98-99 Tama Bay Lightning = 3.56
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    09-10 Edmonton Oilers = 3.46
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    12-13 Florida Panthers = 3.56
     
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    I'm not sure who to blame here. Do we blame Eakins for not adapting his system to fit his players a bit better, or do we blame the players for not understanding anything, not playing to keep the puck out of the net, and not working as a team..? I kinda want to lean towards the players because they're the ones we can see that don't seem to want to play defense. They kinda like gliding around like they're at a community rink hanging out with their friends as a maximum effort level. And they also frequently like to leave the league's premier snipers and shooters open in the slot.. That is a problem that I'm hoping is the players not doing it properly.

    First 9 games: 36 GA(4.0 GA/G)
    Next 10 games: 39 GA(3.9 GA/G)

    I mean, at least it's an improvement, right? Right? :help:
     
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    I was talking about teams in the league in general, no team has broke 300 goals against since the lockout. But looking at it again I was wrong thinking some teams were on pace to break that, Florida had the worst GA/G but still would have ended with ~290 prorated.

    It's astonishing how terrible this team is defensively.
     

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