Friedman: Oilers, Flames have looked into Ekman-Larsson, many other teams also interested

[Mosby]

Figured it makes sense to have a more all-purpose OEL thread.



Note that OEL has a NMC so he gets to pick where he goes.

Alberta teams have an obvious connection to OEL. Edmonton is Tippett and Calgary is Treliving/Maloney, all of whom previously worked in AZ.

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[rt]

Figured it makes sense to have a more all-purpose OEL thread.



Note that OEL has a NMC so he gets to pick where he goes.

Alberta teams have an obvious connection to OEL. Edmonton is Tippett and Calgary is Treliving/Maloney, all of whom previously worked in AZ.

If I were laying down a bet on the trade return, I would guess it would be a 1st round pick, some secondary asset that's worth less than that pick, and a relatively inoffensive cap-dump (one which doesn't have more than a year or two left on it, and most of the cash is paid out already).

As a Coyotes fan, I hope all of this interest drives the price up from there, but that's roughly my expectation.

EDIT:

NOTE: 9/10 of my fellow Coyotes fans will disagree with me on this. But for me, someone with pretty low trade expectations, I'd offer these as examples of the minimum baseline for my expectations:

EDM'20 1st (14th), either Raphael Lavoie or Dimitri Samorukov, and Kris Russell.

CGY '20 1st (19th), Dillon Dubé, and Milan Lucic (with significant retention).

BOS'21 1st, Urho Vaakanainen, and Nick Ritchie and/or John Moore.

These aren't exactly equivalent but meant to represent more of the TYPE of thing I'd expect in a package. None of them are thrilling. Most Coyotes fans would be crushed with those returns. As long as we don't get less than that, I won't be rioting in the streets. None of them are appealing, though. More like the nasty medicine I know is coming.

 

[Langdon Alger]

If I were laying down a bet on the trade return, I would guess it would be a 1st round pick, some secondary asset that's worth less than that pick, and a relatively inoffensive cap-dump (one which doesn't have more than a year or two left on it, and most of the cash is paid out already).

As a Coyotes fan, I hope all of this interest drives the price up from there, but that's roughly my expectation.

Russell could be the cap dump.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

I feel like this should be a case of buyer beware. He’s got a massive contract, and his underlying stats these past few years have been pretty terrible.

Maybe I’m wrong but it seems as though some team is going to majorly over pay for him.

 

[Chayos]

If I were laying down a bet on the trade return, I would guess it would be a 1st round pick, some secondary asset that's worth less than that pick, and a relatively inoffensive cap-dump (one which doesn't have more than a year or two left on it, and most of the cash is paid out already).

As a Coyotes fan, I hope all of this interest drives the price up from there, but that's roughly my expectation.

What about this from the oilers?

To Edm: Stepan, OEL

To Arizona: Klefbom, Neal, Samorukov, 2021-1st and 2021-3rd

 

[XX]

I feel like this should be a case of buyer beware. He’s got a massive contract, and his underlying stats these past few years have been pretty terrible.

Maybe I’m wrong but it seems as though some team is going to majorly over pay for him.

There are reasons on and off the ice for his perceived decline. Teams have to be confident he'll bounce back to be trading for him.

What about this from the oilers?

To Edm: Stepan, OEL

To Arizona: Klefbom, Neal, Samorukov, 2021-1st and 2021-3rd

Classic nothing of value HF trade proposal.

 

[hamzarocks]

I dont get why the flames want OEL? Big contract and nearing 30? Still a top pairing guy but hes gonna get worse over the next few years.

They have Hanafin a good number 4 with top pairing potential if he ever puts it together

Valimaki pre injury looked like a easy top 4 LHD with top pairing potential.

Giordano while older and regressed this year still is a really solid 2/3 guy and should he a top 4 for another couple years.

I dont see OEL making a difference for the flames. They need to upgrade their center depth. Monahan needs to be the 2C with a 1C better than him playing with Gaudreau

 

[780il]

Classic nothing of value HF trade proposal.

Ah yes, a 27 year old #2/3d signed for just over 4m for the next 3 years has no value. Especially in a flat cap world and packaged with a 1st. Smart!!!

 

[780il]

His contract is pretty horrible tbh. Teams know that and I think the return is gonna be pretty underwhelming considering the flat cap and his decline in previous years.

But, I’d be willing to bet on a bounce back playing under Tippett again and behind McDrai. All depends on what we have to give up. I’d be comfortable giving up something like Klefbom + Russel + b prospect. Or a 1st + Russel + Chiasson + Pulju or something. Yotes save money with both deals and pick up either a good replacement dman or a 1st that they need.

 

[XX]

Ah yes, a 27 year old #2/3d signed for just over 4m for the next 3 years has no value. Especially in a flat cap world and packaged with a 1st. Smart!!!

You're upgrading Klefbom and ditching the Neal contract, plus putting in what will almost assuredly be a later first and a prospect that's surplus to the Oilers. It's a pile of value that doesn't consider what AZ would want.

 

[780il]

You're upgrading Klefbom and ditching the Neal contract, plus putting in what will almost assuredly be a later first and a prospect that's surplus to the Oilers. It's a pile of value that doesn't consider what AZ would want.

Well clearly that proposal was out to lunch because a team desperately trying to shed money probably won’t take Neal back and won’t trade their only legit centerman. Not that we have any use for a Stepan anyway having the best 1-2 centers in the league...

 

[rt]

I feel like this should be a case of buyer beware. He’s got a massive contract, and his underlying stats these past few years have been pretty terrible.

Maybe I’m wrong but it seems as though some team is going to majorly over pay for him.

I disagree. I think OEL's biggest problem the last three years is the same problem that most of the Coyotes players have had the last three years: the coaching staff. I fully expect that once OEL is free of this coaching staff, he's going to explode. Especially if it's via a trade to a talented team.

I think your assertion that a team will "majorly over pay for him" is close to the truth, but not the whole truth. I think a more accurate statement would be that "HFBoards is going to consider the trade a major overpayment this off-season but by next off-season will consider it a huge steal".

 

[Pitter Patter]

Ah yes, a 27 year old #2/3d signed for just over 4m for the next 3 years has no value. Especially in a flat cap world and packaged with a 1st. Smart!!!

I think it was Neal that threw the thing off.

 

[rt]

I think it was Neal that threw the thing off.

I agree.

 

[Mez]

Classic nothing of value HF trade proposal.

Classic nothing of value HF response.

 

[Empoleon8771]

How do the Oilers even have the cap space to add him?

 

[XX]

Classic nothing of value HF response.

Does it need to be explained that the Oilers would need to pay a team a lot to make Neal go away with no retention?

The deal is basically Klefbom, Samorukov, 3rd for OEL and Stepan. Color me wildly unimpressed.

 

[DougGilmour93]

Nylander + Dermott + Liljegren + Andersen + 4th + 6th in 20

For

Crouse + Ekman-Larsson + Kuemper

 

[Boxscore]

I'd like to see the Flyers get in on OEL. Would Yotes fans be interested in something around Gostisbehere and Laughton?

 

[absolute garbage]

You guys really think OEL will return more than Subban? He's one year younger this summer than Subban was last summer but has 4 more years left than Subban had, going deep into his 30s which are considered bad years with almost all players. And similar to Subban, his mobility has already started tanking.

Arizona is probably in a similar situation as Nashville where they really want to unload salary. I don't know. You can never know what happens in this league but it seems like we would be looking at a similar trade in a best case scenario for Arizona.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I'm interested in Kuemper, OEL is not a fit though for the Flames. We really don't need more LD

 

[violaswallet]

Just to reiterate the trade we talked about before:

Yandle (~50 point powerplay defenseman who is a probably best on third pairing)
Connolly (20 goal scorer roughly on 2nd or 3rd line)
1st

for OEL

If need be, we would include a 2nd, but it looks like most teams are offering less?

 

[Chayos]

Well clearly that proposal was out to lunch because a team desperately trying to shed money probably won’t take Neal back and won’t trade their only legit centerman. Not that we have any use for a Stepan anyway having the best 1-2 centers in the league...

There is no deal where the Coyotes save money this year. OEL has his bonus paid already so even Klefbom is even money this year. I will revise it to take out Neal but Russell has to go in or there is just no hope of a deal.

 

[Chayos]

Nylander + Dermott + Liljegren + Andersen + 4th + 6th in 20

For

Crouse + Ekman-Larsson + Kuemper

This is an even money deal, but the point of this is recoup picks so Pitts first instead of the 4 +6

 

[QJL]

Ekman-Larsson seems like a guy with enough talent to benefit big time from a change of scenery. I understand the interest.