Confirmed with Link: Oiler sign Dominik Kahun 1-year/ 975k

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Far fewer than good years though.

Outside of last season where he was a -2 at 5v5(in large part due to Babcock), he's only been a minus player at 5v5 once and that was the season where the Avs had one of worst seasons in the modern era.

That’s interesting, thanks for sharing. So I guess his other big minus seasons a combo of SH GA and OT GA?
 

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That’s interesting, thanks for sharing. So I guess his other big minus seasons a combo of SH GA and OT GA?

Not sure about OT(with Corsica dying, I don't know where to find stats for it), but lots of empty netters and shorties.
 

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No, neither of them is. They both come from the German ethnic minority in the Czech Republic which itself had been a part of Austria and the Holy Roman Empire of German Nations for centuries. So they are ethnical Germans who had been living in the relatively newly constituated Czech Republic and whose families emigrated back to the modern Germany very recently, the German term is 'Spätaussiedler'. Many of them did.

You might very well be correct, but Kahún is a Czech / Slovak family name and Dominik's parents are named Pavel and Lenka (here's a nice article about his youth, for those who can read German: Link). So I'm somewhat skeptical that the family is really ethnic German.
Thankfully however, we're no longer living in the 1900's and ethnicity isn't the only determinant of someone's citizenship or nationality - even in Germany.
 

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You might very well be correct, but Kahún is a Czech / Slovak family name and Dominik's parents are named Pavel and Lenka (here's a nice article about his youth, for those who can read German: Link). So I'm somewhat skeptical that the family is really ethnic German.
Thankfully however, we're no longer living in the 1900's and ethnicity isn't the only determinant of someone's citizenship or nationality - even in Germany.
What do you mean "even in Germany"? :huh:
 

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What do you mean "even in Germany"? :huh:

Just meant that while Germany isn't a classic immigration country like Canada, USA, Australia, etc. it (meanwhile) also confers citizenship based on naturalization and on the (limited) principle of Jus Soli. This wasn't really the case until as recently as 2000.

But now we're really going off topic.
 

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But Leaf fans called him garbage and a waste of space on their 'elite' defense corp :sarcasm:

Bear would be a healthy scratch for their AHL team some were trying to argue. It made my brain hurt.
 

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Bear would be a healthy scratch for their AHL team some were trying to argue. It made my brain hurt.

Muzzin, Reilly and Brodie better than Bear? Yeah, they could make that argument.

Bear would absolutely be on the Leafs second pairing though.
 

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Kahun 1g +1a after 3 (!) minutes of play vs. german top team Adler Mannheim.
Absolutely flying so far. Can't watch the game anymore unfortunately.

Just started watching the game on delay.

For a little more deatil on the early points:

He scored his goal on the power play. The Mannheim defense gave him way too much space after a cross ice pass, so Kahun slowly walked in towards the hash marks and beat Endras with a surprisingly hard wrister. If he can start shooting like that consistently, watch out.

For his assist he took a check at the offensive blue line along the boards to make a play and spring his linemates on a 2-on-1, that Gogulla finished with a patient backhand.

So far Kahun seems to be having fun and he looks a little faster than I remember.
Also for what it's worth he is playing center between Philip Gogulla and Frank Mauer.
 

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Half way through the 2nd period Munich scores their 3rd goal to make it 3-1.
And for the third time Kahun was involved and should get another assist. He got a clean faceoff win in the offensive zone to Gogulla, who quickly got a shot off that was partially blocked and took a lucky bounce to Mauer who was parked in front off the net for an easy tap in.

Another general observation:
He will never become a great defensive forward, because he lacks some of the physical tools for that, but he is so damn smart and almost always exactly in the right spot to take away passing lanes and keep the opposing players to the outside.

But this is just one game of course (or half a game). I am looking forward to watching his other games in this tournament.
 

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And it's over: Munich beats Mannheim 3:2. Kahun finishes with a goal.

For those who aren't following closely, this game was part of an 8-team tournament being played as a tune-up for the DEL season which should start later in December. All the games are being played (without fans) in Mannheim.
 
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A final note on the game. With a one goal lead and less than a minute to go (empty net situation). Kahun was sent out with his line to take a defensive zone faceoff, which he won and afterwards he helped to keep Mannheim from ever establishing any sort off sustained possession or pressure in Munich's defensive zone.
 

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Just meant that while Germany isn't a classic immigration country like Canada, USA, Australia, etc. it (meanwhile) also confers citizenship based on naturalization and on the (limited) principle of Jus Soli. This wasn't really the case until as recently as 2000.

But now we're really going off topic.

Well honestly, you were on about ethnicity, and seemingly playing on 70 year old political ideas from Germany. I still find it strange (or flat out wrong) to mention this in the context of the country with the 2nd most number of immigrants (13M), right in the middle of Europe, with 9 neighboring countries.

Thx for the link and explanation from your side :)
 

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Well honestly, you were on about ethnicity, and seemingly playing on 70 year old political ideas from Germany. ...

Then my post certainly came across as unintended.
I was primarily "on about ethnicity" as a means to dispell another poster's idea that Kahun is German because of his ethnic origin - As though that were the only way to become a German citizen in the 21st century.

Again, not here bashing the country or trying to make allusions to a long-gone time, other than to say that the basis of citizenship laws were until quite recently, holdovers from the Imperial era.
To make it painfully clear: I'm glad that's no longer the case, I'm happy to see that more and more foreigners are finding a home in this pretty great country, and that society at large is becoming more and more accepting and welcoming of them.
 

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Muzzin, Reilly and Brodie better than Bear? Yeah, they could make that argument.

Bear would absolutely be on the Leafs second pairing though.
Idk is Muzzin really better at this point? I would question Brodie but imo hes a great complement to Reilly so that will work out great.

I guess what Bear has against him is that it's only 1 season. Plus his weak play ins were the only time a lot of people saw him. Not that Bear stood out as bad compared to the rest of the team
 

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Idk is Muzzin really better at this point? I would question Brodie but imo hes a great complement to Reilly so that will work out great.

You can make the argument about Muzzin being better than Bear. Definitely not clear cut either way.
 

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Muzzin, Reilly and Brodie better than Bear? Yeah, they could make that argument.

Bear would absolutely be on the Leafs second pairing though.

TJ Brodie - 634 NHL GP
Jake Muzzin - 579 NHL GP
Morgan Reilly - 517 NHL GP
...
Ethan Bear - 89 NHL GP

Bear was a rookie last season, and going into next season he's being compared to these NHL vets. Regardless of where you want to slot Bear into Toronto's depth chart lol, the fact that he's being compared to these players is a testament to the season Bear had. Seriously. Larsson was injured, we thought we were screwed, Bear was thought to be a 3rd pairing PP specialist by most yet he comes in and plays stellar. We had an amazing start to the season & Bear was a key part of that.

He's exceeded expectations at every stage of his career and I'm proud that he's an Oiler. I'm a fan boy because I think he's a smart player who moves the puck well and will only continue to improve in all aspects of his game.
 

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Regardless of where you want to slot Bear into Toronto's depth chart lol, the fact that he's being compared to these players is a testament to the season Bear had.

Great. Good for him.

Seriously.

That word absolutely provides more credibility to your post.

He's exceeded expectations at every stage of his career and I'm proud that he's an Oiler. I'm a fan boy because I think he's a smart player who moves the puck well and will only continue to improve in all aspects of his game.

Great. Good for you.
 

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