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  1. rockinghockey

    rockinghockey Registered User

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    It is half way through the season and the Juniors have just finished. I have been reading a lot of different threads about how players have moved up and down and since I am an Oiler fan and we will be draft low again this year I need your help.

    Who do you pick in the 1st round from the 1st pick to the 30th pick?

    A lot of you have opinions that I would love to hear on players that you know so please give me a speal about them.

    Please try to fill out as many 1st round pick as you see the players right now.

    Thanks for your knowledge and thoughts.

    Reminder that Edm does need a legit no. 1 centreman and top dman.
     
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    Centers:

    1. Couturier
    2. Nugent-Hopkins
    3. Strome
    4. Armia
    5. St.Croix

    Defense:

    1. Larsson
    2. Siemens
    3. Hamilton
    4. Musil
    5. Mayfield
     
  3. Zubrus Coffee Maker

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    no love for murphy?
     
  4. ManByng

    ManByng It's Me OilTastic

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    ^^probably not from a lot of fans picking high simply because, although very talented, he's rather small for a defenceman.
     
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    Armia is winger
     
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    If I am Edmonton I trade down and accumulate picks. I am not sold on Courturier/RNH that I would rather have multiple shots of players making it big.

    I know it would be hard, but I would tank another season to have a high pick in 2012. That draft is just so much stronger.
     
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    How in the world can you not have Murphy in there?
     
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    I don't doubt for a second that there are scouts out there that have Murphy over Larsson, just like there were teams that had Erik Karlsson as high as 5 in 2008. Kid's incredibly gifted. And his skating ability will likely negate his size.
     
  9. OilerOlli*

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    But deep enough like 2008 probably. Although a high draft pick is always good. Hope already for Ebert or Reinhart for the Oilers.
     
  10. Street Hawk

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    Courturier isn't expected to be a 100 point #1 center. I think most scouts have his offensive output (even though he lead the Q in scoring last year), closer to the output E. Staal's PPG pace in the past 4 NHL seasons. But, he's supposed to be solid in his own zone. Not Selke calibre, but solid, not like a Spezza for example.

    For multiple picks, the Oilers can move some of their roster players. No need to carry all of Cogs, Brule, Penner, Hemsky, Gagner, Omark, etc.

    I'd rather take the shot at the top picks. None scream "BUST" potential, but they also don't scream ELITE in terms of the forwards. Larsson has the possibility to be ELITE, but Dmen are so hard to judge at this stage.
     
  11. fong p88

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    Forwards:
    1. Coururier
    2. RNH
    3. Landeskog
    Those three are tight though, Landeskog is safest, RNH has highest potential but is least likely to reach it and Couturier is number 2 in both areas.
    4. Strome
    5. Rattie

    Defense
    1. Larsson
    2. Siemens
    3. Hamilton
    4. Murphy
    5. Bell
    I like Murphy but drafting a one dimensional d-man so high is risky. Love Siemens game and I expect Bell to rise to top 12 draft day.

    1. Larsson
    2. Couturier
    3. RNH
    4. Landeskog
    5. Strome
    6. Siemens
    7. Hamilton
    8. Strome
    9. Murphy

    I feel comfortable saying these guys should be top ten picks and after that anything can happen.
     
  12. Meh I don't mind Couturier, getting Staal/Getzlaf comparisons which would be the perfect center for Hall/Eberle.

    As much as I want a top draft pick next year, I would want Hall and company to progress and try to finish outside of the lottery. (similar to stamkos's 2nd season)
     
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    Then you trade down next season and acquire a couple extra 1st/2nd rounders.
     
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    Can't wait until the Leafs have their 1st rounder that draft. 1st overall will be ours!
     
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    Until they finish 9th in the conference again, like usual when they have their first round pick.
     
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    I appreciate you looking at a variety of players, but let's look at the consensus top-five of the moment, which is - Couturier, Larsson, RNH, Landeskog and Murphy.

    Murphy is you smaller puckmover. Most likely a powerplay specialist/fourth forward in the NHL. Kind of like a guy like Ryan Ellis or Brendan Smith as a prospect, or a Visnovsky or Boyle as an established NHL player. He's really a guy you take later in the top-five, and..

    ..Edmonton for the most part needs a franchise defenseman. The guy with the most potential to be that is Larsson, so to me it's obvious you take him. Ultimately teams will be led by an all-around guy.. Just look at the effect Pronger had in his year.. A shifty point-producer is a second-option at best.

    Forwards? RNH you already have in Gagner, who is a smaller, shifty playmaking center. I'd be very wary of his potential as the Oilers.

    Couturier? He's the forward you take. He'd add that large dynamic to center in Edmonton that Gagner doesn't provide.. and he seems more of a scorer, which should also contrast to Gagner's primary abilities.

    Landeskog is another guy you take later in the top-five. He's a guy who could be a Franzen type player, but you have your guy who can power his way to the net already in Hall, and would to an extent in Couturier as well.

    Basically you take Larsson. Edmonton needs that main guy on the backend and Larsson has the potential to be him. Edmonton also may afford itself the luxury of taking a defenseman as they've compiled quite an impressive group of forward prospects already, in Hall, Eberle, Paajarvi and Gagner.. Not convinced by Paajarvi but who knows he has a lot of time to develop... With such a decision you still maintain guys in the system like Pitlick to develop towards that big center you could really benefit from in your top-six.

    If you take Couturier you may just postpone taking a defenseman, as the 012' class looks to contain a lot of good ones.. Ebert, etc.. - and you also maintain a guy in the system like Marincin, who although being quite a high risk, also maintains high potential as that all-around guy on the back-end.

    Other options. You've got your powerforwards in Saad, Ambroz and Armia. Your sniper in Puempel. Your big, two-way defensemen in Siemens, Musil and Hamilton. Your two-way centers in Rask. Your small, talented wingers in Rattie, Nieto and Grimaldi, and your Russians in Namestnikov and Khokhlachev.

    It's interesting because at this point both New Jersey and N.Y.I. look to be solidifying their positions at 1 and 2, although N.Y.I. has been better of late. New Jersey's defense is even worse off than the Oilers so surely they take Larsson. N.Y.I. may even take a guy like RNH, as they lack a skilled, fast playmaking centerman - leaving Couturier. We at HF like to talk about trading down, and possibly filling both needs. Maybe you trade the current 3rd overall and draft both Strome and either of Musil/Siemens/Hamilton, achieving both your needs in a strong center and a potential franchise defenseman, but I doubt that happens.
     
  17. OilerOlli*

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    The Oilers too.
     
  18. Zubrus Coffee Maker

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    2 stromes?
     
  19. ManByng

    ManByng It's Me OilTastic

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    hmmmm....TWO Stromes....one can only dream..... :pb:
     
  20. rockinghockey

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    Very good write up this is what I was looking for.
     

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