Oiler Blue Line

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  1. Olly2

    Olly2 Registered User

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    Much has been made of the Oiler blue line, and how bad it is. Looking at the current bodies slotted on the roster, I almost feel that one smart move makes this roster look half decent.

    Andrew Ference, although not spectacular, he is a solid NHL d-man. I believe paired up with Justin Schultz, they make at the very least an average NHL second paring.

    Jeff Petry is continually getting better as a player. He shows flashes. He and Smid are probably an above average third pairing.

    The Oilers have 2 problems with the blue line:

    1. They don’t have a #1 d-man.
    2. Belov, Grebeshkov, and Nick Shultz are not the answer.

    Going through NHL roster’s and the reality is, just not that many good blue liners available. In the past, the Oilers were able to acquire guys like Roman Hamrlik, Janne Niinimaa, Lubomir Visnovsky, and Ryan Whitney when they were going through a bit of a down time.

    I noticed for the second season in a row, the Stars have scratched Alex Goligoski after a slow start. In the past, he has put up decent points. Is he worth a flyer? This year at 4.6 million and 2 more at 4.8 is his salary. Cap hit is 4.2 million.
    Is he worth exploring? Is he too pricey? What would they be looking for in return since they traded James Neal for him?

    Another guy, I would explore is John Carlson, but I don’t think Washington would want to part with him. They would probably prefer to move Mike Green instead, which I don’t think is what this team needs. His defensive game is just not good enough.

    Winninpeg’s Zach Bogosian is another guy they could look at. Kulikov in Florida, but he hasn’t really proven anything at the NHL level. Yandle in Phoenix would be great too.

    I think if the Oilers can acquire a d-man, without giving up Schultz, Nurse and Klefbom they will be able to address goaltending and a big forward in the off season through the free agent market.

    Curious to hear what others feel about the options I listed above and other potential options.
     
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    We need to trade for Weber and Chara.

    edit: I like Bogosian, but he could be hard to get our hands on.
     
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    Top 2 d-men are rarely traded. Our best chance at icing a top 2 defenceman - developing one. Is it Klefbom or Nurse or JShultz? Who knows...but they're our best shot
     
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    Problem with Chara...By the time we are ready to make a cup run, he would be way past his prime.
     
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    "[Petry] and Smid are probably an above average third pairing."

    wat

    If you were to play them as a third pairing, they'd be the best third pairing in the league. Petry has no business ever dipping below the second pairing on any club in the league.
     
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    Most of the good teams in the league are pretty deep on the blue line.

    Vancouver, Nashville, Winnipeg St Louis, Chicago, Minnesota, and Los Angeles just to name a few.

    Perhaps above average was not the best way to describe that pairing. But right now, as our 3 and 4 blue liners , we are not good enough.
     
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    Other teams are doing more with less. There is a lot more to winning than the players on the ice.
     
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    Petry, Smid, Ference and J. Schultz are decent middle-pairing guys.
    Belov, N. Schultz, Potter and Grebeshkov are decent bottom-pairing guys.

    But I don't see anyone developing into anything more. Totally onboard with trading a RW for a d-man with "shouldn't miss" potential.

    Everyone that is mentioned on here has been discussed ad nauseum. I'm sure MacT will be digging for the guys no one saw coming.
     
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    This. Can't believe how underrated Petry is. He's 25 and this is his 3rd NHL season, he's solid top-4 d-man and he will get better year by year. There's no way I'd trade him away.
     
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    xxx-Petry
    Ference-J.Schultz
    Smid - Belov

    We are one Dman away from being solid.

    Coburn or Girardi or Campbell should be the targets.

    Kulikov or Gardiner would work as well but not a clear upgrade over Smid.
     
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    I think the team needs a top pairing quality leftie to play with Petry and/or a solid second pairing rightie to push Schultz down and carry Ference on the second pairing.

    Something like Kulikov and/or Bieksa, basically.
     
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    They do need a #1 Shutdown D-Man.

    I like a 2nd/3rd Shut-Down pairing of Smid-Petry.

    Maybe Ference-Belov as a 2nd/3rd Pairing.
     
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    We need a #1 D soooo bad, it's ridiculous. There's no way to justify otherwise. However, I doubt MacT is willing to sacrifice the assets to acquire one, so we might have to settle with one more top 4 D. Which isn't that bad.
     
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    We should seriously push for Dmitri Kulikov, especially if he's available. Start with our first this year, move on to our top prospects.
     
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    Kulikov's play hasnt been too great.. Many feel its either regressing or he just needs a change of scenery. I just cant see a team that picked up Whitney and Gilbert trade away a quality Dman.
     
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    I had suggested Bogosian for Yak or Eberle (as that's likely the only way the deal him) back in the off-season and I was told I was crazy. Can't remember for which side, or was it both?

    I still think it makes sense for both teams.
     
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    1: Ference's play has been disappointed. He hasn't played like a top 4 d-man IMO. He's playing like a fringe #4 d-man.
    2: Justin Schultz's play in his own zone doesn't seem to be going forward.
    3: Belov looks nothing like he did in the preseason. Big surprise.
    4: Petry needs to shoot more.
    5: Grebs shouldn't be in the NHL.
    6: Nick Schultz needs to be paired with a much better d-man to look like a good 3rd pairing d-man.
    7: Klefbom, Marincin and Nurse aren't ready yet.
    8: :cry:
     
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    Top prospects? He's not that good. There isn't anything that he does amazingly well. He's not good enough to turn our blueline around. We'd actually need someone better.

    Eberle + Marincin + 1st for Seth Jones.
    Eberle + Gagner for Seth Jones.

    I'd push for one of those if Seth Jones were available.
     
  19. Conkanen*

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    Welcome to HFOil...underrate our own is what we do. For example, I actually read today that Eberle is not a 50 pt scorer.

    That being said, I am super high on Nurse. I think he's the one that eventually becomes the #1 we all covet.
     
  20. Conkanen*

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    You don't deal either of those guys unless you are getting bonafide #1 back.
    Bogo is not that.
     
  21. Conkanen*

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    Just wow.
     
  22. Draiskull

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    Why would he be available? NSH is getting Suter like defending from a guy on ELC.
    They wont trade him before Weber.
     
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    Age, current performance and expected achievement tells me that we'd be getting exactly what we need. Could put Justin Schultz on the 3rd pairing 5 on 5 and Belov in the PB.

    Next season Klefbom plays 3rd pairing LHD in place of Nick Schultz and we trade Smid if we're certain that Nurse is ready for bigger minutes.
     
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    Well hey, I'd make a deal like that for Weber, but I don't see it happening for at least a few years.
     
  25. Conkanen*

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    Yer trading arguably your best player ( this year for sure ) and then some for a guy 10 games into his career when you have a guy named Nurse, drafted 3 spots away from Jones, waiting in the wings.
     

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