OHL Trades 2017-18 Season Thread

[ScoresFromCentre]

The past two seasons, sfan has maintained this topic. Sadly, he hasn't been seen in these parts since late 2016. In his absence, I'd like to continue with it, as this topic has generated some pretty interesting discussion between fans and was a hugely helpful resource for me in building the OHL Draft Pick Database.

To paraphrase sfan, the purpose of this thread is to share information and encourage discussion across the HFB OHL community about trades. Please post to this thread to share, update or correct any trade transaction details, including any details on conditional pick conditions, if possible. Ideally, include links to information sources such as league or team websites or social media posts so I can verify the details. (You can also contact me on Twitter at @writemattwilson.)

Please check the most recent posts in the topic to see if the details of a given trade have already been posted. I'll try to keep this topic as up-to-date as possible, but the list may not reflect the most recent transactions on a given day.

Notes:

1) The OHL Draft Pick Database is available here. It contains the most up-to-date record of which OHL teams hold which draft picks in every future OHL draft, including compensation picks and all known public information on trade conditions. A record of all trades since the 2015-16 season is also included.
2) The past two OHL Trades Season Threads are available here: 2015-16, 2016-17.
3) Conditional draft picks are marked with a "*".

OHL Trades, 2017-18 Season

1. June 20, 2017 - North Bay sends LW Max Kislinger to Flint for FLT 15th 2020*.
----- Condition: Pick becomes FLT 6th 2020 if Kislinger plays one game with Flint. [SOURCE]

2. June 27, 2017 - Guelph sends D Kyle Rhodes to Sudbury for SBY 4th 2019*.
----- Condition unknown.

3. June 27, 2017 - Guelph sends C Luke Burghardt and C Luke Moncada to North Bay for C Zach Poirier, D Mark Shoemaker, and NB 3rd 2021*.
----- Condition: Pick goes to Guelph if Shoemaker does not play an overage season in 2017-2018. [SOURCE]

4. June 30, 2017 - Barrie sends rights to RW Vincent DeSanctis, BAR 15th 2021 to Windsor for WSR 15th 2021, WSR 11th 2019*.
----- Condition: Pick goes to Barrie if DeSanctis plays one game in OHL. [SOURCE]

5. June 30, 2017 - Barrie sends rights to LW Mathew MacDougall to Windsor for WSR 14th 2018, BAR 4th 2020*.
----- Condition: Pick goes to Barrie if MacDougall plays one game in OHL. [SOURCE]

6. August 1, 2017 - Kitchener sends rights to D Merrick Rippon to Mississauga for NIA 2nd 2018, MIS 2nd 2021, BAR 2nd 2023*, MIS 3rd 2023*, MIS 4th 2023*.
----- Condition: One of the three picks will go to Kitchener based on results of 2018 NHL draft. [SOURCE]

7. August 8, 2017 - Windsor sends D Logan Stanley to Kitchener for KIT 15th 2018*.
----- Condition: Pick becomes KIT 2nd 2023, KIT 2nd 2024, KIT 3rd 2023, and KIT 4th 2020 if Logan Stanley plays one game for Kitchener. [SOURCE]

8. August 16, 2017 - Kitchener sends D Elijah Roberts to Niagara for SSM 2nd 2020, SAG 3rd 2018, BAR 3rd 2019.

9. August 18, 2017 - Ottawa sends rights to D Hunter Carrick and OTT 14th 2020 to Windsor for WSR 14th 2020 and WSR 4th 2023*.
----- Condition: Pick goes to Ottawa if Carrick plays one game for Windsor. [SOURCE]

10. August 22, 2017 - Hamilton trades C Luke Kutkevicius to Windsor for SBY 6th 2018 and WSR 5th 2021*.
----- Condition: Pick becomes a 4th-round pick in 2021 if Kutkevicius produces 45 points in 2017-18. [SOURCE]

11. August 23, 2017 - Sudbury trades D Owen Lalonde to Guelph for D Nolan Makkonen, WSR 2nd 2018, WSR 3rd 2018, PBO 2nd 2019, SSM 3rd 2021, WSR 2nd 2019*, and GUE 2nd 2021*.
----- Conditions: WSR 2nd 2019 will go to Sudbury based on results of 2018 NHL draft. GUE 2nd 2021 will go to Sudbury if Lalonde plays an OA year in 2020-21.

12. August 24, 2017 - North Bay trades D Zach Shankar to Niagara for NIA 5th 2019.

13. August 24, 2017 - Sault Ste. Marie trades LW Alex Gritz to Erie for ER 3rd 2023 and ER 10th 2021.

14. August 24, 2017 - Sudbury trades G Zack Bowman, LW Alan Lysczcarczyk and SBY 4th 2018* to Owen Sound for LDN 2nd 2018, OS 3rd 2022 and OS 4th 2019*.
----- Conditions unknown.

15. August 15, 2017 - Owen Sound trades G Emanuel Vella to Mississauga for MIS 6th 2018 and MIS 5th 2020.

16. September 10, 2017 - Ottawa trades G Leo Lazarev to Barrie for BAR 12th 2020*.
----- Condition: Pick will become BAR 7th 2020 if Lazarev plays for the Colts. [SOURCE]

17. September 11, 2017 - Barrie sends the rights to G Anthony Dumont-Bouchard to Kitchener for KIT 14th 2020.

18. September 15, 2017 - Barrie sends the rights to G Olivier Tremblay to Ottawa for OTT 10th 2018.

19. September 19, 2017 - London sends D Nicolas Mattinen to Flint for FLT 3rd 2018, FLT 2nd 2019, NIA 2nd 2020, and MIS 3rd 2019*.
----- Condition: Pick will go to London if Mattinen plays an overage season in 2018-19. [SOURCE]

20. September 20, 2017 - Hamilton sends D Cole Candella to Sudbury for LDN 2nd 2018, WSR 3rd 2018, SBY 3rd 2019, and SBY 3rd 2022*.
----- Condition: Pick will go to Hamilton if Candella plays an overage season in 2018-19. [SOURCE]

21. September 21, 2017 - Erie sends D TJ Fergus to Hamilton for HAM 3rd 2018, HAM 5th 2020*, and HAM 6th 2020*.
----- Conditions unknown.

22. September 22, 2017 - Hamilton sends G Cole Ceci to Guelph for GUE 9th 2018*.
----- Conditions: Pick could become a "mid-round pick depending on what happens in Guelph". [SOURCE]

23. September 25, 2017 - Sarnia sends LW Troy Lajeunesse to Sudbury for SBY 4th 2021.

24. October 4, 2017 - Peterborough sends LW Tyler Rollo to London for OS 4th 2018*.
------ Conditions: Pick could become OS 3rd 2019 if unknown (statistical) conditions are met. [SOURCE], [SOURCE]

25. October 8, 2017 - Mississauga sends D Austin Osmanski to Peterborough for PBO 4th 2018, PBO 4th 2020.

26. October 10, 2017 - Sudbury sends D Conor Ali to Kingston for KGN 4th 2020.

27. October 12, 2017 - Barrie sends the rights to D Shane Collins to London for LDN 14th 2018.

28. October 13, 2017 - Niagara sends D Andrew Somerville to Guelph for NB 14th 2018.

29. October 16, 2017 - North Bay sends LW Daniil Vertiy to Saginaw for SAG 15th 2018*.
----- Condition unknown.

30. October 17, 2017 - Kitchener sends D Doug Blaisdell to Sudbury for KGN 4th 2020*.
----- Conditions unknown.

31. October 17, 2017 - Flint sends RW Kole Sherwood to Kitchener for KIT 2nd 2019, SSM 2nd 2020, KIT 3rd 2021, KIT 5th 2020.

32. October 17, 2017 - Sault Ste. Marie sends G Joseph Raaymakers to London for G Tyler Johnson, FLT 2nd 2019, LDN 2nd 2023, LDN 4th 2020*. [SOURCE]
----- Condition: Pick will go to Sault Ste. Marie if Raaymakers plays one game in his overage season.

33. October 17, 2017 - Guelph sends G Cole Ceci to Oshawa for OSH 8th 2020.

34. October 17, 2017 - Windsor sends C Hayden McCool to Oshawa for OSH 4th 2020.

35. October 22, 2017 - Barrie sends G Christian Propp to Owen Sound for ER 2nd 2019, OS 5th 2019, OS 7th 2019.

36. October 22, 2017 - Owen Sound sends G Christian Propp and OS 10th 2020 to North Bay for D Brady Lyle and NB 7th 2020.

37. October 23, 2017 - Owen Sound sends D Nick King to North Bay for NB 15th 2018*.
----- Condition unknown.

38. October 30, 2017 - Saginaw sends G Brendan Bonello to Kingston for KGN 6th 2019.

39. November 2, 2017 - Oshawa sends C Mason Kohn to Saginaw for SAG 4th 2020.

40. November 13, 2017 - Hamilton sends D TJ Fergus and HAM 4th 2018 to Barrie for D Kade Landry.

41. November 15, 2017 - Guelph sends LW Matt Hotchkiss to Kingston for KGN 5th 2021.

42. November 17, 2017 - London sends RW Adrian Carbonara to Niagara for NIA 4th 2020.

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[ScoresFromCentre]

Storm/Battallion/Firebirds fans, any thoughts on the first few trades of the season that you'd like to share with the rest of us? Also, does anyone know the conditions on the Rhodes trade? (I'm assuming it's that he reports to Sudbury for his overage season, but I haven't found confirmation on that anywhere.)

 

[TcNorth]

The Flint Firebirds addition of LW Max Kislinger from North Bay for a 2020 15th round pick (turns into a 6th round 2020 pick if he plays 1 game in Flint) is a good addition. Flint loses the firepower of Kole Sherwood, Ryan Moore, Everett Clarke, and Luke Kirwan which is why I like the addition of this experienced player. I am not expecting him to be a 80 point player, but a serviceable winger who has some upside and should get lots of ice time.

 

[I Loveallsports]

Storm/Battallion/Firebirds fans, any thoughts on the first few trades of the season that you'd like to share with the rest of us? Also, does anyone know the conditions on the Rhodes trade? (I'm assuming it's that he reports to Sudbury for his overage season, but I haven't found confirmation on that anywhere.)

Check wolves website

 

[ScoresFromCentre]

Updated the list with Friday's trades and all known conditional info. A trade freeze is now in effect through the month of July.

The Flint Firebirds addition of LW Max Kislinger from North Bay for a 2020 15th round pick (turns into a 6th round 2020 pick if he plays 1 game in Flint) is a good addition. Flint loses the firepower of Kole Sherwood, Ryan Moore, Everett Clarke, and Luke Kirwan which is why I like the addition of this experienced player. I am not expecting him to be a 80 point player, but a serviceable winger who has some upside and should get lots of ice time.

Looks like a solid add, Tc. Looking forward to seeing the Firebirds in action next season!

Check wolves website

I'm not finding anything, luvall. Can you toss me a link?

 

[I Loveallsports]

Updated the list with Friday's trades and all known conditional info. A trade freeze is now in effect through the month of July.



Looks like a solid add, Tc. Looking forward to seeing the Firebirds in action next season!



I'm not finding anything, luvall. Can you toss me a link?

http://www.thesudburystar.com/2017/06/27/rhodes-looks-to-grow-as-player-person-with-wolves

 

[ScoresFromCentre]

http://www.thesudburystar.com/2017/06/27/rhodes-looks-to-grow-as-player-person-with-wolves

I'm still not seeing it, sorry! I must be blind.

 

[OHL insideout]

Trade freeze lift's Tuesday August 1'st.
Any whispers of trades that have been "agreed upon" during this freeze?

 

[Firebrd828]

Wondering what moves we might see beginning tomorrow......

 

[Tim Raines]

Wondering what moves we might see beginning tomorrow......

With a number of players currently at the U-18 and U-20 summer camps, I'd expect teams would wait to announce anything involving those guys.

 

[Petes]

 

[ScoresFromCentre]

Thanks, Petes! Added it to the list.

The Draft Pick Database is also updated with the Rippon trade.

 

[StormSurge9]

Storm/Battallion/Firebirds fans, any thoughts on the first few trades of the season that you'd like to share with the rest of us? Also, does anyone know the conditions on the Rhodes trade? (I'm assuming it's that he reports to Sudbury for his overage season, but I haven't found confirmation on that anywhere.)

My thoughts on the trades from the Storm perspective are not positive ones.

I thought a bunch of veterans would be shipped out in order to open up ice time for the younger players, but they haven't yet (We shall see what happens going forward). Rhodes is probably equal to Shoemaker and the careers of Poirer/Burghardt have been pretty similar as well. Moncada didn't have a great rookie year, but moving him in those deals makes no sense.

 

[ScoresFromCentre]

We finally have a trade that has no conditions attached! Elijah Roberts from Kitchener to Niagara for a 2nd and a couple thirds.

I like this trade for both teams. Roberts has talent but failed to develop in Kitchener and was getting pushed out on a crowded blueline. Niagara has space and some history developing defencemen. I suspect due to his size that he's a five-year player in the OHL, as well, meaning he should be around for Niagara's next contention window.

As for the Rangers, they add to their considerable stockpile of picks. Roberts was a second-round pick (#32) in the 2015 draft, and the Rangers picked up a 2nd in the 2020 in the trade (it is SSM's, so I'd bet on it being worse than 32nd overall, but let's say for argument's sake it's around the same slot). So they moved five years back in the draft, but picked up 3rds in 2018 and 2019 and got two years out of Roberts. I think that's pretty close to breaking even--a pretty good result, even if Roberts didn't work out in a Rangers uniform.

Side note: new Rangers GM Mike McKenzie has certainly been busy this month.

 

[OHL insideout]

Very quiet on the trade front. With so many head coaching changes this off season, management must be waiting for the new coaches and staff to view first hand all "in house" talent before making any needed moves. It sure makes for a boring off season but perhaps things will heat up in a week or so.

 

[ETA 2000 Fan]

Bulldogs' Luke Kutkevicius acquired by Windsor

(Windsor, ON) – General Manager Warren Rychel has completed a trade with the Hamilton Bulldogs, acquiring 1998-born centre Luke Kutkevicius.

The Bulldogs get Sudbury’s 6th round pick in 2018 and Windsor’s 5th in 2021 – the latter being a performance-based conditional pick that could become a 4th in 2021.

The 6’1, 162-pound Toronto native was originally Mississauga’s 2nd round pick (#25) in the 2014 Ontario Hockey League Priority Selection. After a season with the Steelheads, Kutkevicius landed in Hamilton, playing in 95 games over parts of two seasons, setting career highs in goals (6) and assists (16) in 2016-17.

“Luke brings experience and speed down the middle,†Rychel said. “He’ll get the chance to play a big role and will be a nice addition to our leadership group.â€

Kutkevicius will be on the ice when 2017 Training Camp opens on August 28th.

 

[ScoresFromCentre]

Thanks, ETA! Rychel has certainly been busy. Interesting to see a performance-based condition attached to the pick, as those are quite uncommon in the OHL. (The last one I remember was in the Cody Payne trade from Saginaw to Niagara.) 45 points seems possible for Kutkevicius on a rebuilding team, though it wouldn't change the accounting much.

insideout, I expect you're right that we'll see things heating up in the next week or two. Last year there were twelve trade between the middle of August and opening night.

 

[AttackSound]

Rumours floating around Lalonde is headed to Guelph from Sudbury although accuracy from the source on Twitter is not 100% actual fact at this point more rumour than anything else but until the actual deal gets confirmed have to put on the source eyes and wait

If he does indeed head to the Royal city then the Storm could have another good piece on their club to build around although just rumours at this point

 

[Naz]

Rumours floating around Lalonde is headed to Guelph from Sudbury although accuracy from the source on Twitter is not 100% actual fact at this point more rumour than anything else but until the actual deal gets confirmed have to put on the source eyes and wait

If he does indeed head to the Royal city then the Storm could have another good piece on their club to build around although just rumours at this point

It's a done deal Sudbury gets 2 players and a whole lot of draft picks.

 

[Petes]

To Guelph: Owen Lalonde

To Sudbury: draft picks ... all of them.

 

[Naz]

To Guelph: Owen Lalonde

To Sudbury: draft picks ... all of them.

Here is the run down:
In exchange for Lalonde, the Wolves will receive defenseman Nolan Makkonen, as well as the following picks in upcoming OHL Priority Selections:
•Windsor’s 2nd Round pick in 2018
•Windsor’s 3rd Round pick 2018
•Peterborough’s 2nd Round pick 2019
•Sault Ste. Marie’s 3rd Round pick in 2021
•Conditional – Windsor’s 2nd Round pick in 2019
•Conditional – Guelph’s 2nd Round pick in 2021

 

[AttackSound]

It's a done deal Sudbury gets 2 players and a whole lot of draft picks.

That deal between the Storm and Wolves seemed decent for both parties

Lalonde moves to a club that has the pieces in place to be a solid contender in the west and in Guelph and the Wolves get a solid return with assets to boot well done Guelph that will make the 8 games the Attack play the Storm a lot more exciting

 

[EON]

Four 2nds and two 3rds for Lalonde seems a bit much.

 

[TcNorth]

Four 2nds and two 3rds for Lalonde seems a bit much.

Based on 64 OHL games, 12 points, and being 176 lbs. I would have to agree. Some of these trades are outlandish.

 

[dirty12]

Based on 64 OHL games, 12 points, and being 176 lbs. I would have to agree. Some of these trades are outlandish.

Two 2nds are conditional; so, 2-2nds 2-3rds and a possibly sevrviceable D, for now. For comparison sake on refuse to report players picked in top 3. Flint is guaranteed 3 of each and comp 1st & (comp 2nd for not being able to pick one selection after previous year?) for R. McLoed. That works fine for both teams? Lalonde deal does not warrant inclusion with outlandish trades.