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Look at 7:32, Colorado player falls on offensive blue line and later they score and the goal is determined an offside goal. I think this is too much. Nobody could say that's offside, but you could always take the challenge at the end of the game because there's nothing to lose. Basically, every situation could be offside, because you have to take the small margins to gain an edge. It's a joke.

Not to mention It looks like Winnipeg player trips Colorado player into offside and that's why it's no goal, but of course, they don't think about that!

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NHL needs to make this game more entertaining/fun, not more idiotic.

Another thing is goaltending interference. I think they have no idea what they are doing with it. It seems like every game has different rules for it and I've seen some terrible interference gone through in some games and some games no interference and it's not a goal.


What they should do:

No more offside challenge. It spoils the game. Let the small margins be wrong. It's just stupid to take away goal like that. If refs immediately see It's absurd offside (like Duchene vs Nashville couple years ago), then they could call it off, but just give the power to REF, not coaches.

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howkie

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I heard if he didnt put the skates on ice, instead laid flat pn the ice would not be offside, so Barrie should just laid there instead.
 
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howkie said:
I heard if he didnt put the skates on ice, instead laid flat pn the ice would not be offside, so Barrie should just laid there instead.
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if I understand what you're saying it doesn't really work like that. in order to be onside Barrie has to have at least one skate blade on the ice on the neutral zone side of the blue line before his teammate touches the puck inside the blue line. you can't just say, lay there with your skates inside the zone and reach your hand into the neutral zone.

I have no problem with the offside challenge. I do like the change the NHL made this year by instituting the penalty if you challenge and are wrong. it was in the officials hands for years and they still got it wrong from time to time. the game is moving faster than ever and players are looking for any minuscule advantage they can get. we have the video technology today to slow things down a tremendous amount to catch these things so why not use it?
 
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I think the entire thing is silly because the only reason he was offside was because he was interfered with but you can’t reciew that...
 
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I think the entire thing is silly because the only reason he was offside was because he was interfered with but you can’t reciew that...
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This. I have no problem with the offside review because it was offside, but it should have been an interference call on Winnipeg. But us Avs fans shouldn't be too upset about it either because it didn't affect the outcome of the game.
 
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Meh. The NHL has gotten a lot of calls wrong this year and made some really bad decisions no doubt.


This wasn't one of them. Barrie was offsides. Now the argument for an interference call against the Jets player would be a much better argument to have. But like Bednar said last night, the Refs had pretty much put the whistles away in the last 5 minutes of the game and was gonna let it just play out.
 
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shoeshine boy said:
if I understand what you're saying it doesn't really work like that. in order to be onside Barrie has to have at least one skate blade on the ice on the neutral zone side of the blue line before his teammate touches the puck inside the blue line. you can't just say, lay there with your skates inside the zone and reach your hand into the neutral zone.

I have no problem with the offside challenge. I do like the change the NHL made this year by instituting the penalty if you challenge and are wrong. it was in the officials hands for years and they still got it wrong from time to time. the game is moving faster than ever and players are looking for any minuscule advantage they can get. we have the video technology today to slow things down a tremendous amount to catch these things so why not use it?
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It’s just frustrating to see goals overturned for something that didn’t even impact the goal, like a player being the tiniest amount offside.
 
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Agreed completely. It's unnecessary to have goals overturned due to offsides. Offsides are the balls and strikes to hockey.
 
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If there's anything you can trust with the Avs this year it that the NHL refs will find a way to f*** them over.

Honestly though this case doesn't matter much, it just gave us two Mackinnon OT goals.
 
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I think the biggest problem is that even if there are other factors in causing the GI or offsides, they can't be reviewed even if it is obvious in the review of the GI or off. I wonder if having a more open challenge like they have in the NFL, ie you can challenge essentially any aspect of the game be it GI, a penalty, etc, would help by not only by adding more strategy to when a coach should use a challenge, but also aiding in other blatant missed calls. Even if they just try it in the AHL maybe, see what happens.

Or alternatively, rather than allow the coaches to challenge a wider variety of plays, allow the refs (or Toronto) to consider other aspects of the play, such as the interference on Barrie which caused him to go offside. Even if they call off the goal, if they also are allowed to assess a penalty it would deter coaches from, as you pointed out, using the challenge when there is nothing to lose as well as making it so the refs don't just have to pretend that nothing happened.
 
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thevil said:
I think the biggest problem is that even if there are other factors in causing the GI or offsides, they can't be reviewed even if it is obvious in the review of the GI or off. I wonder if having a more open challenge like they have in the NFL, ie you can challenge essentially any aspect of the game be it GI, a penalty, etc, would help by not only by adding more strategy to when a coach should use a challenge, but also aiding in other blatant missed calls. Even if they just try it in the AHL maybe, see what happens.

Or alternatively, rather than allow the coaches to challenge a wider variety of plays, allow the refs (or Toronto) to consider other aspects of the play, such as the interference on Barrie which caused him to go offside. Even if they call off the goal, if they also are allowed to assess a penalty it would deter coaches from, as you pointed out, using the challenge when there is nothing to lose as well as making it so the refs don't just have to pretend that nothing happened.
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I agree completely. I hate the fact that they can take away a goal due to GI but no penalty was called. If it is considered GI then a penalty should assessed to the player who did it. I understand that they cannot and do not want to review missed penalties but in this case it makes more sense then removing a goal without assessing the penalty.
 
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That Duchene goal will haunt the NHL forever.

One bad call in one meaningless regular season game, and now we have this disaster of a review system. It's only a matter of time before a Game 7 OT goal gets called off for some back-foot-is-a-millimeter-off-the-ice nonsense, and they literally have to spend half an hour cleaning equipment and cameramen off the ice so they can resume an already-decided game. It's going to happen and the NHL will deserve it.
 
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Mentioned this in our GDT but I don't like the challenge either. I agree that they should let the refs decide it because I can make most obvious calls from my couch. If they do want to challenge, why not have the rule be 'crossing the plain' like a touchdown in football. Would make way more sense IMO.

Also, if you're going to review it and say it's offside, don't you have to look at the reason he went offside and call a penalty? It's stupid that you can get interfered with and be called offside but have no penalty on the play. No sense at all.
 
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Since it was OT, was it coach's challenge or NHL's 'Situation Room' review?
sry, could not find the info in the video.
 
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