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I just don't see the incentive for CAR here.
There may be a fit here. What do you think his value is right now? Asking price? Why have his stats have trended downwards every year?Is there any appetite here for Will Butcher?
It's a tricky situation to navigate, because LHD is the Devils' biggest organizational need, but Butcher has grown redundant. He isn't needed as a PPQB (Subban) and he's no longer our best defenseman in transition (Subban, Severson). Most Devils fans are fine with keeping him, but if we're able to sign/acquire a meaner, more defensive LHD (Edmundson, Zadorov, etc.), we'd definitely explore our options with Butcher.
He's signed for two more years at $3.375M AAV.
Is there any appetite here for Will Butcher?
It's a tricky situation to navigate, because LHD is the Devils' biggest organizational need, but Butcher has grown redundant. He isn't needed as a PPQB (Subban) and he's no longer our best defenseman in transition (Subban, Severson). Most Devils fans are fine with keeping him, but if we're able to sign/acquire a meaner, more defensive LHD (Edmundson, Zadorov, etc.), we'd definitely explore our options with Butcher.
He's signed for two more years at $3.375M AAV.
I noticed he was drafted by the Av's and then played college, did he Justin Schultz the Ave's or did they just never sign him?
The Justin Schultz option. Butcher stayed ar DU long enough to become a free agent.
The Justin Schultz option. Butcher stayed ar DU long enough to become a free agent.
There may be a fit here. What do you think his value is right now? Asking price? Why have his stats have trended downwards every year?
Also, if he's worse than Subban in transition & PPQB role, that's not saying much about him. Is it b/c of Subban's untradeable contract or Butcher's inability to play those roles (better than Subban)?
I noticed he was drafted by the Av's and then played college, did he Justin Schultz the Ave's or did they just never sign him?
We need another Gordie Howe who if he was still with us would be celebrating his 92nd birthday today. The greatest player of all time. Miss you big fella.
At 6 million per year for 4-5 more years for a 2nd line center who gets about 0,5 points per game?Kyle Turris.
At 6 million per year for 4-5 more years for a 2nd line center who gets about 0,5 points per game?
Isn't he also injury prone?
Strong pass on that.
After the coaching change Turris looked more like a legit 2nd line center (not on a contender but certainly on the Wings). Don't forget Turris and Mantha had great chemistry at the world champs. Ultimately, Turris has negative trade value with his contract and the Wings would need to get a legit prospect/pick back with him.He's not injury prone that I remember... he was healthy scratched by Laviolette a bunch, though.
After the coaching change Turris looked more like a legit 2nd line center (not on a contender but certainly on the Wings). Don't forget Turris and Mantha had great chemistry at the world champs. Ultimately, Turris has negative trade value with his contract and the Wings would need to get a legit prospect/pick back with him.
Straight up, Turris and a 1st or 2 2nds for a bag of pucks.What do you propose?
In any other season I would consider trading Cholo and the 2nds, but there's a chance that we can see the virus come back next winter since it appears to be endemic now. Probably best not to waste any assets this offseason.... or at least until we get a better picture of what's going on with the virus.The only trouble I see with trading is that after AA was traded we really don't have anything I would consider excess assets to facilitate these trades. Yzerman did some great trades in Tampa but he had assets to work with. Our only real assets are prospects and picks both of which we need just as badly as anything they would bring in. Taking on a bad contract in return is almost our only trading chip.
I think a list of what assets are moving is needed before targets can settle in. For example Larkin, Mantha, Bertuzzi Seider our first round pick this year and next year are probably all off the table. What does that leave Cholowski, are we going to move Zadina, Valeno, or second round picks?