Rumor: Offseason Rumors Thread #1 | Trade Milan, Milan So Far Away?

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Little Fury

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Just my prediction, not what I would like to see.

There's a few D men in the league worth either package and none of them are named Rasmus Ristolelinen. If Chia walks into Bobby Burger's office with something like that, he should be escorted out of the building by security.
 

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Are we still in need od RH defender? I have heard rummors of bringing Joel Persson. That sums our D-corpse on right side to: Larson, Benning, Bear, Persson and one of Russel/Sekera. Bringing another D makes no sense unles we trade someone even if we will not sign Benning.
 

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Ristolainen sucks. Klef + 10th would be another patented Chiarelli value loss for the sake of trying to fill a hole, so I imagine it's going to happen.
 

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I hate it when Rishaug brings up these crap rumours because I know on some level it's likely going to happen. I remember him trying to soft-pedal the Hall/Larsson deal.
 

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Ristolainen for Klefbom and 10th overall sounds about right for current Oilers management.

I'm actually happy they're open to a big trade for an impact defenseman because the Oilers have been way too conservative for way too long when it comes to upgrading via the trade market. The only problem is Ristolainen isn't an impact defenseman.

Now, John Carlson? I think that's a really great fit and I'd be more willing to break the bank on that one.
 
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I hate it when Rishaug brings up these crap rumours because I know on some level it's likely going to happen. I remember him trying to soft-pedal the Hall/Larsson deal.

I agree with this. If this was another team I could easily brush him off. But Rishaug is in tune with Chiarelli, so I take these rumors pretty seriously

But holy what a bad deal that would be if it took place. Offload more valuable assets and STILL fail to bring in a true top pairing D

Klefbom straight up for Risto would be more rue fair value. Id still be hesitant because Klefbom has a better all around game, especially at 5v5. But it wouldnt be a horrible trade as RR brings good things on the PP. The added 10th overall is just so, so bad


Ristolainen for Klefbom and 10th overall sounds about right for current Oilers management.

I'm actually happy they're open to a big trade for an impact defenseman because the Oilers have been way too conservative for way too long when it comes to upgrading via the trade market. The only problem is Ristolainen isn't an impact defenseman.

Now, John Carlson? I think that's a really great fit and I'd be more willing to break the bank on that one.

Im not opposed to swinging for the fences in a trade if the fit is right. But Id disagree with the bolded. The Oilers have traded away Hall, Eberle and 16th overall pick in the past 2 years in 3 separate deals (2 being for a D). I would call 2 of those note worthy trades and 1 a big trade. They all failed, and all failed to acquire a true top pairing D. I am very afraid for the next big trade, as the rumors are indicating another big fat L coming down the pipe
 

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Long term plan....are you crazy?

This is the Oilers....where we see a trend and then react 2 years too late.

League getting bigger, we get smaller and more skilled. League getting faster, we shed the speed and skill and add "truculence".

If that continues then management needs to get its collective head out of its ass and make a change to address it.
 

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Ristolainen for Klefbom and 10th overall sounds about right for current Oilers management.

I'm actually happy they're open to a big trade for an impact defenseman because the Oilers have been way too conservative for way too long when it comes to upgrading via the trade market. The only problem is Ristolainen isn't an impact defenseman.

Now, John Carlson? I think that's a really great fit and I'd be more willing to break the bank on that one.

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The Edmonton Oilers? The Edmonton "16 and 33 picks for Reinhart and Hall for Larsson" Oilers?
 

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The Edmonton Oilers? The Edmonton "16 and 33 picks for Reinhart and Hall for Larsson" Oilers?

Conservative in the calibre of their targets moreso than conservative in general.

With Sekera and Larsson, they picked up some good complimentary players, but they haven't attempted to acquire a legitimate top defenseman in almost 10 years. That we know about, anyway.
 

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Conservative in the calibre of their targets moreso than conservative in general.

With Sekera and Larsson, they picked up some good complimentary players, but they haven't attempted to acquire a legitimate top defenseman in almost 10 years. That we know about, anyway.

Id hope Larsson was targeted as a legit top pairing D when they traded for him. Ill give PC the benefit of the doubt on that one
 

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Id hope Larsson was targeted as a legit top pairing D when they traded for him. Ill give PC the benefit of the doubt on that one

Top pairing isn't even what I'm talking about. If Larsson is or ever could be a top pairing defenseman, it's pretty clear it'd be as a #2 with a more well rounded partner. We're talking about Oliver Ekman-Larsson, John Carlson, Erik Karlsson. A legitimate top defenseman.

Adam Larsson was not that, has never been that and obviously never will be that. The Oilers have not swung for that #1 guy since the days of Lubo and Souray (unless you count the hopes for Justin Schultz).
 
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I don't think 10 + klef gets your Risto. Not sure why Buffalo would make that trade.
 

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Trading Klefbom will come back to haunt the Oilers just as bad as the Hall and Reinhart trade so I fully expect it to happen.
 

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I don't think 10 + klef gets your Risto. Not sure why Buffalo would make that trade.

Because you can trade for a better D and get a 10th overall draft pick for free lol

Unless ofcourse, you for some reason you think Risto is a different player than he actually is and is a anywhere near a top pairing D (which hes not)
 
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Conservative in the calibre of their targets moreso than conservative in general.

With Sekera and Larsson, they picked up some good complimentary players, but they haven't attempted to acquire a legitimate top defenseman in almost 10 years. That we know about, anyway.

I thunk there's a good reason for that. Such players seldom come available and always cost a king's ransom.

Klef+10 for OEL or Karlsson would be defensible, if almost completely unworkable from a cap standpoint.

I don't think 10 + klef gets your Risto. Not sure why Buffalo would make that trade.

Buffalo makes that trade and runs away laughing. Risto stinks.
 

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Top pairing isn't even what I'm talking about. If Larsson is or ever could be a top pairing defenseman, it's pretty clear it'd be as a #2 with a more well rounded partner. We're talking about Oliver Ekman-Larsson, John Carlson, Erik Karlsson. A legitimate top defenseman.

Adam Larsson was not that, has never been that and obviously never will be that. The Oilers have not swung for that #1 guy since the days of Lubo and Souray (unless you count the hopes for Justin Schultz).


Larsson was considered to have a ceiling of Lidstrom a few years ago. Was revered for his passing ability. Obviously he didn't quite get there, looks like a deer in the headlights in the o-zone.
 

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Larsson was considered to have a ceiling of Lidstrom a few years ago. Was revered for his passing ability. Obviously he didn't quite get there, looks like a deer in the headlights in the o-zone.

Lidstrom is the second best defenseman in the history of professional hockey. His upside was Lidstrom in the same sense that RNH's upside was Gretzky. There was that comparison to play-style and the thought he could be a #1 defenseman when he was drafted. Then he was a bottom pairing defenseman at best for 2-3 years, took a big step forward with Andy Greene as his D-partner, and then traded 100 games later.

No reasonable person could look at 23 year old Adam Larsson and say "he could be a top-10 two-way defenseman". We were already well past that when he was acquired. At no point was he ever sold as that by the Oilers, and nobody actually thought "we have our #1" when that trade was made. Not even the biggest boosters.
 
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I thunk there's a good reason for that. Such players seldom come available and always cost a king's ransom.

Klef+10 for OEL or Karlsson would be defensible, if almost completely unworkable from a cap standpoint.

It wouldn't be defensible. It would be murder. It will cost you a lot more than that and it should.

The only player I take off the table in an acquisition that big is Connor McDavid. Literally every other asset on the team or in the system is available otherwise. Yes, even Leon Draisaitl, even though I don't think that will happen.
 
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