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GrumpyKelly

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Because two coaches played him at their discretion? What about Gretzky and Tippett who had him playing top minutes? Still waiting for your answer on how he’s terrible.

He’s a #2-4 defenseman on just about every team in the league.

lmao no

He can be useful in an offensively starved team or that would be my selling point.

I'm not going to list all the things he's terrible at defensively because it's easier to list what he's good at: nothing. There's not a single that I can think of what makes him good defensively.
 

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lmao no

He can be useful in an offensively starved team or that would be my selling point.

I'm not going to list all the things he's terrible at defensively because it's easier to list what he's good at: nothing. There's not a single that I can think of what makes him good defensively.

To be fair...Erik Karlsson isn't exactly good at D either. Is Yandle the problem or is the overall composition of our D the problem?

And yes, I know Erik Karlsson is better than Yandle, I'm just saying, there's still some value in having one-dimensional D men.
 
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To be fair...Erik Karlsson isn't exactly good at D either. Is Yandle the problem or is the overall composition of our D the problem?

And yes, I know Erik Karlsson is better than Yandle, I'm just saying, there's still some value in having one-dimensional D men.

Pre-injury Karlsson would dominate defensively when he wanted to. But he was so dominant offensively whether it was 5v5 or PP that it was worth to sacrifice defense for it.

Yandle doesn't have any of that, you shouldn't even mention them in the same sentence.
 

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lmao no

He can be useful in an offensively starved team or that would be my selling point.

I'm not going to list all the things he's terrible at defensively because it's easier to list what he's good at: nothing. There's not a single that I can think of what makes him good defensively.

lmao yes.

A Dman who’s 13th overall in the entire league in points, is good at nothing? lol ok.

Even if he were “terrible” defensively, which he isn’t, he’d still be a 2nd pairing defenseman. So you wanna get rid of a 2nd pairing dman on a team with one of the worst defensive cores? Makes sense.
 
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Pre-injury Karlsson would dominate defensively when he wanted to. But he was so dominant offensively whether it was 5v5 or PP that it was worth to sacrifice defense for it.

Yandle doesn't have any of that, you shouldn't even mention them in the same sentence.

Lol wut? Karlsson and “dominating defensively” should never be in the same sentence.

Go outside and get some fresh air.
 

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lmao yes.

A Dman who’s 13th overall in the entire league in points, is good at nothing? lol ok.

Even if he were “terrible” defensively, which he isn’t, he’d still be a 2nd pairing defenseman. So you wanna get rid of a 2nd pairing dman on a team with one of the worst defensive cores? Makes sense.

The only good thing you can mention about him is his points. Thanks for proving my point lol.

And he's still playing third pairing here, like he did with the Rags. He's not a second pairing Dman. Maybe he was with the Yotes but that time is long gone. Maybe you should take some notes from coach Q and Vigneault, they know hockey.

Lol wut? Karlsson and “dominating defensively” should never be in the same sentence.

Go outside and get some fresh air.

He absolutely did dominate defensively when he wanted to. But during the regular season he didn't really care because his offense outweighed the defensive lapses.

Take a hike.
 

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The only good thing you can mention about him is his points. Thanks for proving my point lol.

And he's still playing third pairing here, like he did with the Rags. He's not a second pairing Dman. Maybe he was with the Yotes but that time is long gone. Maybe you should take some notes from coach Q and Vigneault, they know hockey.



He absolutely did dominate defensively when he wanted to. But during the regular season he didn't really care because his offense outweighed the defensive lapses.

Take a hike.

Lol just shrug it off like nothing. 13th overall in points by a Dman? Pfffft worthless. Whether you like it or not, putting up points is a big part of the game, defenseman or forward.

Of course he’s a second pairing Dman. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t make him a third pairing guy.

“Karlsson didn’t care to play defense because his offense outweighed his lapses?” What the f*** are you even talking about?

Go have another drink, you clearly don’t know shit if you think Yandle is a third pairing defenseman.
 
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Lol just shrug it off like nothing. 13th overall in points by a Dman? Pfffft worthless. Whether you like it or not, putting up points is a big part of the game, defenseman or forward.

Of course he’s a second pairing Dman. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t make him a third pairing guy.

“Karlsson didn’t care to play defense because his offense outweighed his lapses?” What the f*** are you even talking about?

Go have another drink, you clearly don’t know shit if you think Yandle is a third pairing defenseman.

Not on this team he isn't. I'll side with Q here. Cya.
 

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I'll be the first to say I don't enjoy watching Yandle play...half the time I'm shaking my head at the types of plays he's trying to make, whether it's the slap pass to the opposite corner to nobody or being soft in the corner and being grossly out of position...there's a lot of things to criticize.

I just don't know if I buy the idea that getting rid of him (there's still some good things) will solve all of our problems. If utilized correctly, I still think he can be useful to us. I'm really interested to see how this situation in general plays out, though.
 
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The problem with yandle isn't that he sucks defensively and is really only useful on the offense, it's that he's getting paid $6.5M to have that role. If he was being paid like a specialist, then sure I'm fine with him being stuck on the 3rd pair because he's a massive defensive liability, but he's getting paid like a top pair guy. So yeah, if we want to have better cap and balance in spending between forward/defense, we need to get rid of him.
 

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I'll be the first to say I don't enjoy watching Yandle play...half the time I'm shaking my head at the types of plays he's trying to make, whether it's the slap pass to the opposite corner to nobody or being soft in the corner and being grossly out of position...there's a lot of things to criticize.

I just don't know if I buy the idea that getting rid of him (there's still some good things) will solve all of our problems. If utilized correctly, I still think he can be useful to us. I'm really interested to see how this situation in general plays out, though.
It wont solve every problem for sure, but he is a mess out there in his own zone along with Matheson most of the time. His happy go lucky attitude all the time may be good around a veteran core, but this is a core made of young men and he needs to be a leader. Let's face it, we've seen plenty of times where he's lollygagging on defense and I for one would take the sacrifice in points if it allows our D to tighten up and protect our goalies.
 
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Matheson is the first to go (if possible). And yes I want Yandle out too. I’d feel better if we had a strong third pairing LD where we can flip Yandle between the 2nd and 3rd and use him in more specialized scenarios (high offensive zone starts, PP1, etc). But stillman is still young and learning, having zadorov there in the bottom 4 instead would make me more comfortable, and I really like stillman, but he’s still developing. Though even he is probably more reliable defensively than Yandle is, so idk.

at the end of the day we have Ekblad and Weegar in the top-4. Im cool with stillman as the 6th D. The other three are comprised of matheson, Stralman, and Yandle. Lose matheson no matter what, along with one of the other two and we can make it work either way. The D needs a shake up and two need to go, and we need the cap space.
 
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can we sign pius suter already... we should have drafted him.. kid went undrafted years ago.. now hes lighting up his league. oh yah he was good on pk too.. if we need to go cheap we should sign this kid.

back when i was an online keyboard scout this kid was high on my list. just like arviddson bit what do i know..


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Blackhawks sign forward Pius Suter to one-year contract

Who would win in a fight?
The Prius vs The Pius?

Would he even want to sign here with the list of D in front of him?
 
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Pens fan here. Should the Cats not be able to re-sign Dadonov or Hoffman, would there be interest in Patric Hornqvist (RW)? He brings a different element to your forward group, but is older and has a $5.3m cap hit.

Thanks in advance!

[edit: thanks for moving the post, I somehow missed this thread]
 
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GrumpyKelly

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Pens fan here. Should the Cats not be able to re-sign Dadonov or Hoffman, would there be interest in Patric Hornqvist (RW)? He brings a different element to your forward group, but is older and has a $5.3m cap hit.

Thanks in advance!

[edit: thanks for moving the post, I somehow missed this thread]

I can't imagine the extra 1.5-2 million savings between Hornqvist and Hoff/Dads is going to make a difference if they decide to let both go. It just means that they're cap strapping the team again.

Plus Hornqvist turns 34 next with three years left on his deal, this is exactly the type of move the Panthers should avoid doing. These soon to be, over the hill guys are almost guaranteed to go over that hill once they hit the beach in South Florida.
 
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