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- Apr 23, 2016
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You're not allowed to be positive ever again.43 Days have passed since this post.
We have won 5 of 16 games.
26th in the NHL in P% in that span.
24th in GF/GP.
28th in PP%.
You're not allowed to be positive ever again.43 Days have passed since this post.
We have won 5 of 16 games.
26th in the NHL in P% in that span.
24th in GF/GP.
28th in PP%.
Who's your source?
Really can't see them moving Hall as long as they are in the race. Even if they know 100% that he won't re-sign.
Well, we don’t have a 1st or a 3rd. So that 2nd seems near and dear at this point. Our 1st, 2nd and 3rd are spoken for next year as part of the New Jersey condition. So they’re out. I don’t want to trade Hayton, Soderstrom, Jenik, or Maccelli. So what does that leave?Have a feeling we're looking hard at Hoffman. We need another trigger-man and we had reported interest in him last year. Would be a nice if we can get him here for a run and hope to re-sign one of him or Hall. He would be a nice consolation signing if Hall walks.
Well, we don’t have a 1st or a 3rd. So that 2nd seems near and dear at this point. Our 1st, 2nd and 3rd are spoken for next year as part of the New Jersey condition. So they’re out. I don’t want to trade Hayton, Soderstrom, Jenik, or Maccelli. So what does that leave?
Why would Florida be selling? They are having a good year and could use a playoff.
HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - Hall on Move Again? Isles/Yotes Talking(e4) Jets and Vatanen(e3) Tues Buzz
Was this already talked about today on here? Anybody take any stock in this Eklund reporter?
Exactly, so why trade him. He is third in points and tied for team lead in goals. He's not going anywhere, but if TGO can be traded Hoffman sure can, but it won't be to us.
Aren't you brave.Predicting the future is a risky business, but I'm going to make a few:
1. Tocc won't be fired during this season
2. Hall won't be traded at the TDL
3. If Hall signs with us, it will be after the season
I think we have to look at it relative to his teammates, unfortunately. He’s 4th in points per game with 0.58. This is just 0.02 behind the 3rd place Keller who has 0.60 points per game.Dvo has 32 points with 15 goals. I brought this up before but thought it may be worth to bring it up again.
He is 18 points away from 50, 5 goals away from 20. Is a 20 goal, 50 point season enough to consider him a bonafide 2C? Especially if he has been playing on the top line most of the season and the second half with Hall? I almost would like to see him pass 50 points because of this. What of he doesn't hit 50 points? Is about 18g, 45 points 2C production? What does Dvo need to do production wise rest of season for you to consider him a 2C?
I think the situation with Dvo is very relative. Specifically I think he might rate a premium as the only viable top 6 C on the roster. I think finding another needs to be a significant priority as it potentially unlocks Keller/Kessel/Schmaltz. I'd love to see GMJC move Schmaltz for a comparable talent-wise 2C, but the only one I can't think of off the top of my head that might be available would be a Pageau type?I think we have to look at it relative to his teammates, unfortunately. He’s 4th in points per game with 0.58. This is just 0.02 behind the 3rd place Keller who has 0.60 points per game.
I think we have to look at it relative to his teammates, unfortunately. He’s 4th in points per game with 0.58. This is just 0.02 behind the 3rd place Keller who has 0.60 points per game.
If we use NHL.com as our guide (which we probably shouldn't because it has terribly outdated postional assignments like LW, RW, C for players):So what is the average PPG that 2C's put up? I may crank some numbers later. I'm tired of having to bake in a "Coyotes floor and cieling" on players production. Stepan carried career averages when he first got here, Hall has a pretty good PPG on the team. Even Riberio looked great for a couple months so I don't think there is some magical thing that happens to player production in AZ. We should be able to develop players that put up league average numbers for their respected role on the team. Is it truly a lack of talent still?C system issues? If Dvo puts up 50 this year I will feel much better about where the organization is going.
Jack demanding a trade because of BUF management's ineptitude to provide him any productive support five years into his career would trigger a retool overnight.Buffalo doing a complete rebuild? Otherwise they are going to want/need a 1C coming back, no?
If we use NHL.com as our guide (which we probably shouldn't because it has terribly outdated postional assignments like LW, RW, C for players):
32nd ranked "Center" last season was Elias Pettersson with 66pts. They 63rd ranked "Center" was Adam Henrique with 42pts.
But I mean, they have Galchenyuk and Kerfoot and JT Miller and Ryan Dzingel and Gustav Nyquist and a bunch of other obvious wingers mixed in there.
If you filter out rookies, and add a >50gp filter, and go by pts/gp you have:
Ryan Nugent Hopkins at 32nd with 0.84 and Travis Zajac at 62nd with 0.57ppg.
Dvorak is currently 0.58ppg. So that's about the bottom of the barrel for 2Cs in the NHL, I guess. If you change the GP requirement to >20 and leave all the other filters the same for this season, Dvorak ranks 59th among "centers"
Question is whether we see Barrett Hayton ever being a consistent 70pt center. I’m not sure I see it.
I do think Dvorak has a little more upside left in him. He needs some added consistency and he strikes me as a player who can find that. With increased consistency, I think his totals improve. He showed elite offense skills in the OHL to you along with his all-around game. Would not be shocked if he clicked into this higher gear more consistently in the future.
If he can be a 55pt guy and Hayton a 65pt guy, both with solid all around games and leadership ability, that might be good enough for a while.
Maybe a poor man’s Bergeron or O’Reilly type player? Or Couturier or Horvat style?
LeBrun floated Grabner's name back to NYI. I could see that. I don't know what happened but it's clearly not working here anymore. We need to cut cap too and he can be replaced at a fraction of the cost.