Have you seen our roster? Who the F are we scared to lose that we can’t protect? Hinostroza? Fischer? I don’t think we would lose a second of sleep if we had to expose one of those guys. I think we are fine. I’d even go so far as to say given our cap space after next season that we will be buyers hoping to try to snag a player to protect in the expansion draft (likely a D).Part of me wonders if you don't trade Raanta so that you can dangle him out there for Seattle to entice them not to take another roster player. There are a few teams with 2 decent goalies who are going to have to make trades with the have-nots to get something for nothing or be willing to part with the goalie to Seattle for nothing.
Coyotes: Kuemper & Raanta
Avalanche: Grubauer & Francouz
Blue Jackets: Korpisalo & Merzlikins (presumably eligible by the draft)
Rangers: Georgiev & Shesterkin (possibly eligible if Lundqvist does not stick around)
Penguins: Jarry & Murray
Blues: Binnington & Allan
Capitals: Holtby & Samsonov
Currently I think you're looking at losing some one like Fischer or Hinostroza, if resigned, for forwards, or Lyubushkin or Oesterle on D. Raanta is probably a better pick in that scenario. I think there will be a bit of movement of goalies in the next season or so, so it's hard to predict how likely he'd be to be taken.
I agree, and even if we sign Hall, Kuemper and Raanta are the team. How they go, so goes the team.Have you seen our roster? Who the F are we scared to lose that we can’t protect? Hinostroza? Fischer? I don’t think we would lose a second of sleep if we had to expose one of those guys. I think we are fine. I’d even go so far as to say given our cap space after next season that we will be buyers hoping to try to snag a player to protect in the expansion draft (likely a D).
I’d prefer to keep 2 goalies and not make a Raanta trade given we are likely due to another compressed schedule with potential for injuries (especially netminders). I’m only advocating a deal if it makes sense from a hockey perspective (asset you can’t ignore or it means we can extend Hall).
I just don’t get how someone can look at 2 players like Hinostroza and Fischer who have quite frankly underwhelmed (how many healthy scratches did they have? 10? More?) this season and who could both find themselves as trade bait and even potentially not even qualified. It’s baffling really.I agree, and even if we sign Hall, Kuemper and Raanta are the team. How they go, so goes the team.
I like Hino but he's the opposite of what our team needs. I've been adding him in trades for over a year because all he brings is some skill to the 3rd/4th line. We need 2 power forwards with some skill and a heavy hitting blue liner with solid passing. none of these 3 players need to be top end talent, middle of the pack guys work fine, we just need some form of muscle.Hino i'd like to keep. What do we think about offersheeting Cirelli with 7m ish? Trade Demers/Gogo. We lose our pick in 2 drafts instead of one but we get an extremely good 2C who looks like a 1C Couturier type.
He’d be a guy I’d target.Hino i'd like to keep. What do we think about offersheeting Cirelli with 7m ish? Trade Demers/Gogo. We lose our pick in 2 drafts instead of one but we get an extremely good 2C who looks like a 1C Couturier type.
Yes, Raanta is obviously the most valuable piece as it stands among the eligible expansion picks. As his deal ends after next season, I doubt his value alone is high enough unless traded in season to net something worth protecting in the draft. I agree with holding onto him for the extent of the season to split the workload.Have you seen our roster? Who the F are we scared to lose that we can’t protect? Hinostroza? Fischer? I don’t think we would lose a second of sleep if we had to expose one of those guys. I think we are fine. I’d even go so far as to say given our cap space after next season that we will be buyers hoping to try to snag a player to protect in the expansion draft (likely a D).
I’d prefer to keep 2 goalies and not make a Raanta trade given we are likely due to another compressed schedule with potential for injuries (especially netminders). I’m only advocating a deal if it makes sense from a hockey perspective (asset you can’t ignore or it means we can extend Hall).
Nuts.For some reason I don’t want Eichel. Keeps coming off like a guy who only looks at it from himself being the center of the universe.
Well yeah. Every team in the league would love to add him. Haha. I think TAMPA will move TyJo and/Gourde to keep Cirelli, though.He’d be a guy I’d target.
People around here are pissed about the Keller deal at 7 mil. and now you want to give Cirelli the same, and he is not as proven and plays with high end players who helps with production and him being more sheltered. Playing with the Yotes I believe his production would take a hit. He is a nice player but not at 7 M.Hino i'd like to keep. What do we think about offersheeting Cirelli with 7m ish? Trade Demers/Gogo. We lose our pick in 2 drafts instead of one but we get an extremely good 2C who looks like a 1C Couturier type.
Give your head a shake.For some reason I don’t want Eichel. Keeps coming off like a guy who only looks at it from himself being the center of the universe.
Nuts.
Give your head a shake.
SQUIRREL!!!!
I’ve seen him in enough games to where he doesn’t always bring it every game. OTOH I’ve yet to see Taylor Hall not bring it.
It’s not his talent that bothers me. It’s his general attitude that does and frankly speaking we don’t need a primadonna.
Shake your head harder. Not ONE player brings it every night. I would take Eichel over every play on the Yotes, and that includes Hall. A 6'2" young C that is almost PPG. You say we don't need him.. Oh, I forgot, we are knee deep in centers. I mean, we have beer drinking Stepan as our 1C. I love his attitude. He hates losing. When was the last time ANY of our leaders said that. I have read that his team mates love it attitude.SQUIRREL!!!!
I’ve seen him in enough games to where he doesn’t always bring it every game. OTOH I’ve yet to see Taylor Hall not bring it.
It’s not his talent that bothers me. It’s his general attitude that does and frankly speaking we don’t need a primadonna.
There aren’t more than a half dozen forwards on earth better than him.
He’s not a primadonna. He’s a leader. A competitor. He sees that his team is run by f***ing morons who make horrible decisions and have been driving his club into the dirt. He’s vocal because he’s right and they’re wrong and he cares and demands change. As he should.
I’ll take that 10/10 over the sleepy, bored, soft, f***ing p***yes that we have as “leaders”. OEL has been asleep for 3 years. Stepan and Goligoski retired the minute they got here. None of our leaders give a single shit. As such, they keep their mouths shut because they aren’t moved to even bother speaking out.
You are completely and utterly incorrect my man.
I think a new coach may change your mind. What I don't get is why RT gets so much love from around the league. It would be interesting to hear what the players think of him. Then there is Chayka. Sounds like just the opposite from RT.If you could keep only one Coyote, who would it be? Chychrun? I think I’d probably keep Chychrun. Who’s number two? I don’t even know. Hall? It’s got to be Hall, who’s 29 and not even under contract. Then maybe Kuemper, or Garland (who’s coaches have given him 4th line minutes most of his career).
Our team f***ing sucks. This is a shit organization.
I would happily just let Buffalo name their price for Eichel. Take whatever they want. I hate the Coyotes. Eichel is so much better than the Coyotes.
It’s not his talent that bothers me. It’s his general attitude that does and frankly speaking we don’t need a primadonna.
You're right, Chayka should only trade for players that are comfortable with mediocrity and prefer not making the playoffs. The type of guy that is on his last contract and knows it's guaranteed money so long as he physically shows up.
If Eichel has an 'attitude', it's that perpetually garbage organizations like Buffalo and Arizona aren't good enough for him. He wants to win. That's an ideal guy to have in your room unless your plan is to continue being a dumpster fire.
People around here are pissed about the Keller deal at 7 mil. and now you want to give Cirelli the same, and he is not as proven and plays with high end players who helps with production and him being more sheltered. Playing with the Yotes I believe his production would take a hit. He is a nice player but not at 7 M.