Official 2019 Draft Thread

[FLYguy3911]

Trouba would be closest to fit criteria

He's not worth Patrick.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

He was really paid by Hextall to post on here to try and control the internet on the love of coach Hak.

I figured he'd be here throwing it in our faces how the team still sucks, Hak wasn't the problem..etc.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

No.

Love the one word, direct answer

 

[Chinatown88]

I'm always eager to say a junior center will be a winger, but I actually think Cozens could stick at center. I also think he'd be a good PWF goal scoring wing with a great playmaking center. I'm sure his offensive ceiling is higher there. But I like his hockey sense and feel for the position at center: gives easy exit availability, solid defensively, moves really well at his size through NZ (or even stop starts in tight), physical in battles (even at the NHL level, when he fills out, he might be one of the tougher below the dots players to contain). I don't think he's much of a finesse player or passer, but his high IQ allows him to execute nice give and go plays or short area passes. He always has a plan.

My thing with Cozens, while most people have him 3-5 (again, this draft might not be the most talented), is that while he provides a lot of super high floor things that will project easily, I'm a little skeptical he has the high end puck skill to be a 1C type. But I have seen improvement this year from last year with his hands, though he's still not exactly a "stickhandle in a phone booth" type. I'd say more a 50-60 point 2C is my realistic hope. But again, wing maybe provides more. Like every non-Jaako Hughkko prospect, he has his pluses and minuses as a quintessential high pick, so he's certainly a possibility like any other. He's not exactly easy for me to comp either. Rosy ceiling.....smaller, more nimble Primeau? Maybe Star Man can chime in.

So Dach carries more risk and reward than Cozens?

 

[Striiker]

Ok, I'll risk jinxing it and ask..

Where is Deadhead? Last seen Dec 20th..Someone took him out or did he pass away into the giant vapour bowl in the sky?

With Hakstol gone he has no reason to post here anymore.

Just like Boxcar with Manning.

 

[Magua]

So Dach carries more risk and reward than Cozens?

More risk yes, but I don't know how much more reward there is either. Something I need to figure out. Like Cozens will be a smart beast of a PWF, whatever position. He is still decently skilled with plenty of offensive upside, and he gets every last ounce out of his skill. It's more a critique of this draft than him. And he's raw in certain aspects, so he could keep improving at high rates, as he's done already.

Dach has more puck skill and playmaking ability. He also is a below average mover, unlike Cozens who has a lot of power and movement to his skating game. It projects as plus. Dach is guilty of a lot of gliding and weak strides and upright, stationary play; and he's not anywhere near as good physically. If you take him, you hope he irons it out over time, while still probably not being a good skater and being more a turn his back, slow it down guy. We know how that goes with players usually being written off or being late bloomers. So, maybe he has more puck skill but doesn't have opportunity to use it, and his ceiling becomes another 50-60 point 2C type. But with less certainty and floor.

Welcome to the 2019 draft lol. I still believe Zegras is the 3rd most skilled player, but even he is rather slight (though has some Farabee-type compete) and someone I'd say needs to improve his speed, though his edges and lateral agility are great. High end IQ too. Turcotte will be an interesting 2nd half watch, but he needs to stay healthy and provide an adequate sample.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

With Hakstol gone he has no reason to post here anymore.

Just like Boxcar with Manning.

Totally makes sense with Boxcar aka Manning's dad or whoever he is.

I really thought his endless prattling and criticism of the star players in general would maintain his wind-bag novel posts.

Not missing him at all though so I'll stop poking the bear while he's hibernating

 

[Striiker]

Totally makes sense with Boxcar aka Manning's dad or whoever he is.

I really thought his endless prattling and criticism of the star players in general would maintain his wind-bag novel posts.

Not missing him at all though so I'll stop poking the bear while he's hibernating

The thing is, his whining about the star players was all about Hakstol too. He cried about them because he refused to admit they were carrying the team, in spite of Hakstol. Bashing them defended the coach.

Literally every argument he made could be linked back to Hakstol. It was so pathetic and transparent.

 

[Rebels57]

So here's something for everyone to think about. If the Flyers end up with the first overall pick, would they consider moving one of Patrick or Frost as part of a package for a top pairing right side defender under the age of 25? Hughes/Giroux/Couturier/Patrick or Frost/Vorobyov/Rubtsov would be ridiculous depth, so someone would need to be moved. Just throwing it out there....

Yes. All options need to be considered at this point.

 

[Rebels57]

He was really paid by Hextall to post on here to try and control the internet on the love of coach Hak.

I honestly would not doubt it.

Its becoming an increasingly popular tactic by organizations.

 

[Striiker]

We have Ghost and Myers as top 4 RD... we don’t need to trade for one.

Having crazy forward depth would be better.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

The thing is, his whining about the star players was all about Hakstol too. He cried about them because he refused to admit they were carrying the team, in spite of Hakstol. Bashing them defended the coach.

Literally every argument he made could be linked back to Hakstol. It was so pathetic and transparent.

Talk about hitching your wagon to a turd..

 

[Rebels57]

More risk yes, but I don't know how much more reward there is either. Something I need to figure out. Like Cozens will be a smart beast of a PWF, whatever position. He is still decently skilled with plenty of offensive upside, and he gets every last ounce out of his skill. It's more a critique of this draft than him. And he's raw in certain aspects, so he could keep improving at high rates, as he's done already.

Dach has more puck skill and playmaking ability. He also is a below average mover, unlike Cozens who has a lot of power and movement to his skating game. It projects as plus. Dach is guilty of a lot of gliding and weak strides and upright, stationary play; and he's not anywhere near as good physically. If you take him, you hope he irons it out over time, while still probably not being a good skater and being more a turn his back, slow it down guy. We know how that goes with players usually being written off or being late bloomers. So, maybe he has more puck skill but doesn't have opportunity to use it, and his ceiling becomes another 50-60 point 2C type. But with less certainty and floor.

Welcome to the 2019 draft lol. I still believe Zegras is the 3rd most skilled player, but even he is rather slight (though has some Farabee-type compete) and someone I'd say needs to improve his speed, though his edges and lateral agility are great. High end IQ too. Turcotte will be an interesting 2nd half watch, but he needs to stay healthy and provide an adequate sample.

Sounds like this Draft is ass.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

We have Ghost and Myers as top 4 RD... we don’t need to trade for one.

Having crazy forward depth would be better.

I agree with this. I'd prefer more offensive skill vs more D men and no, I'm not advocating trading a D for one.

Promoting Myers, Morin and giving Friedman a look while launching Farmer into the sun, instantly improves the D.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

Our draft should be targeting skill, skating and scoring more than anything else.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

Sounds like this Draft is ass.

Any year we bottom out, this is always true.

Karma shits on the Flyers for some reason.

 

[Rebels57]

Any year we bottom out, this is always true.

Karma ****s on the Flyers for some reason.

The only positive is, I care less and less every year.

 

[Chinatown88]

Oh my Lord. Not again. Jeez

Edit: wrong thread. Maybe it will be one of those drafts everyone hates but it produces good talent in the end. I kind of like the smaller guys projected in the mid to late 1st, Caufield and Pelletier.

 

[TCTC]

I honestly would not doubt it.

Its becoming an increasingly popular tactic by organizations.

If that's the case Hextal didn't think highly of Voracek.

 

[Magua]

Sounds like this Draft is ass.

Top 2 is super duper legit. If you judge based on that.....

But otherwise, you're probably going to have a muddled top 10+ with teams picking "their guy." Means you might get a similar player anywhere in there. This is just the usual stuff: pre-season draft is great, then it sucks by mid-season, then some gems move up the boards. It's still early; shit changes. At the moment, there's certainly a plausible lack of truly high end players by #3 even. I would not call the present 1st round a great depth draft. At the same time, there are still very quality players in the top half. OHL is a wasteland though.

 

[Rebels57]

Top 2 is super duper legit. If you judge based on that.....

But otherwise, you're probably going to have a muddled top 10+ with teams picking "their guy." Means you might get a similar player anywhere in there. This is just the usual stuff: pre-season draft is great, then it sucks by mid-season, then some gems move up the boards. It's still early; **** changes. At the moment, there's certainly a plausible lack of truly high end players by #3 even. I would not call the present 1st round a great depth draft. At the same time, there are still very quality players in the top half. OHL is a wasteland though.

Thank you sir. Keep us updated as you learn more. You do the work, we profit. Maguapedia.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

The only positive is, I care less and less every year.

I go through phases like that. Coming out of the Hak led dark ages gives me hope, even if Scott, Homer and Clarke are lurking in the shadows.

 

[Tripod]

Top 2 is super duper legit. If you judge based on that.....

But otherwise, you're probably going to have a muddled top 10+ with teams picking "their guy." Means you might get a similar player anywhere in there. This is just the usual stuff: pre-season draft is great, then it sucks by mid-season, then some gems move up the boards. It's still early; **** changes. At the moment, there's certainly a plausible lack of truly high end players by #3 even. I would not call the present 1st round a great depth draft. At the same time, there are still very quality players in the top half. OHL is a wasteland though.

Sounds like last years draft where the top 2 was expected, then all over the place after that as draft day proved.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Turcotte was hurt. He’s back now & playing well. The thing that hurts him & Zegras is that Hughes is the guy there who’s going to get the best usage possible. In most normal years those two would likely be the top player on the team.

Even last year when Turcotte moved up to the U18’s he was still behind Hughes & some older players. Zegras & Beecher benefited a lot from their departures with the U17’s.

 

[VladDrag]

I'm always eager to say a junior center will be a winger, but I actually think Cozens could stick at center. I also think he'd be a good PWF goal scoring wing with a great playmaking center. I'm sure his offensive ceiling is higher there. But I like his hockey sense and feel for the position at center: gives easy exit availability, solid defensively, moves really well at his size through NZ (or even stop starts in tight), physical in battles (even at the NHL level, when he fills out, he might be one of the tougher below the dots players to contain). I don't think he's much of a finesse player or passer, but his high IQ allows him to execute nice give and go plays or short area passes. He always has a plan.

My thing with Cozens, while most people have him 3-5 (again, this draft might not be the most talented), is that while he provides a lot of super high floor things that will project easily, I'm a little skeptical he has the high end puck skill to be a 1C type. But I have seen improvement this year from last year with his hands, though he's still not exactly a "stickhandle in a phone booth" type. I'd say more a 50-60 point 2C is my realistic hope. But again, wing maybe provides more. Like every non-Jaako Hughkko prospect, he has his pluses and minuses as a quintessential high pick, so he's certainly a possibility like any other. He's not exactly easy for me to comp either. Rosy ceiling.....smaller, more nimble Primeau? Maybe Star Man can chime in.

Feel here is similar, watched another shift by shift on YouTube, too (from Sept). I see a bit of Stone in his game, which is why I think he would be a very good winger. Not sayin he is as good in the dzone, that would be unfair.