I didn't say he will bust, I do think he has the highest potential to out of anyone in the top 7.
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I didn't say he will bust, I do think he has the highest potential to out of anyone in the top 7.
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Johnny Hoxville
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I see a power forward who will score 50pts a year. Is that good for 4-6 pick, yes it is. That said, I think Nylander is the superior talent.
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Yeah I just don't see that, in my viewings I have yet to see anything that makes me believe that.
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You aren't entirely alone, and the consensus has been proven wrong before, but generally speaking if most scouts view him as around the consensus 5th overall, there is probably something there.
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Yeah, Tkachuk is a monster. His skating is weak but if he improves it he will be a high end first liner.
More than a few think the best case scenario is 'merely' a high-end complementary player. Still useful but at 6th, you ideally want a player that drives the play.
I'm hoping the Canucks take him if the Oilers reach for Brown or a defenceman.
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I'd be perfectly fine with Tkachuk as the 6th. He's being sold short a bit by us HF scouts; I think he has Perry type levels to him if everything goes well.
That all being said, it's no wonder most people look for C's and high caliber D early and often.
You look at the last few drafts; outside of this year... The first bunch of forwards tend to be C's.
That all being said, it's no wonder most people look for C's and high caliber D early and often.
You look at the last few drafts; outside of this year... The first bunch of forwards tend to be C's.
Dubois won't be an effective centre at the NHL level. He stikes me as somewhat clumsy, can initiate contact, but doesn't shine in a hard checking, tight knit game, even for a big man. Needs time and space, but doesn't create it at an elite level. A lot of the same things were said about Perry, so I could be wrong, just my view.
I questioned that pick from the day we had it. I really wondered if the scouts actually watched Nemo or they just looked at his size and statline. I mean teamed up with either Bailey or Hall or Henrique and the fact that the original scouting report had almost all his goals scored from setups from other teammates and deflections sitting in front of the net was screaming 3rd line player at best. Voynov, Carlsson, Josi and Allen, Ennis were picks near and after him.
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And Henrique was a third rounder if memory serves who had twice as many goals (30) this season as Nemisz has career NHL games (15).
The irony is strong.
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Interesting, thanks for sharing bud.
Not sure how I feel about the 4-6 gap he's talking about. I like Juolevi but I really would prefer not to take a D.
Come on Edmonton, **** up trading #4 for an established player and pick a D or trade it to a team who will take a D man.
I'm a little confused about this part?
Not sure how I feel about the 4-6 gap he's talking about. I like Juolevi but I really would prefer not to take a D.
Come on Edmonton, **** up trading #4 for an established player and pick a D or trade it to a team who will take a D man.
I'm a little confused about this part?
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Probably means below the ledge after 6. There's no chance they take them regardless of what other teams do, so they don't need to consider them.
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Yeah that is kinda how I read it as well, but its odd that Burke would admit their 4-6 at this point.
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So we've got it 4-6 Tkachuk/Dubois/Juolevi. Then 7-8 Nylander/Brown? I like Juolevi watching the Mem cup he definitely has some Brodie in him.
Anglesmith
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Based on the phrasing in that post, he doesn't necessarily know. It's not his job to know, of course, so it's possible that he really is just guessing, or it's also equally possible that there's a little misdirection going on there and they really covet someone else.
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Could be misdirection, could be his own opinion vs that of the scouts, who knows.
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Classic Burke, does anyone really believe he's going to tip his actual hand as to who we are drafting? Burke is on the record as stating that teams will "leak" info often to play mind games into guessing who they will draft. Trust me, their list is totally confidential.
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Isn't it his job to know? He's the President of Hockey Operations. He should have some idea at least.
He's just probably saying stuff to appease us fans but not give anything away.
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I don't think it is. It's his job to preside over all of the hockey operations, not to do all the hockey operations himself. The way I see it, the president gives a framework for the GM to make decisions. I think the GM makes the decisions, and the president then is continuously evaluating those decisions.
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He could be just playing games. Though not sure why he'd say he thinks Nylander will be better than William, but wouldn't even look at him at 6... 
If I'm trying to deflect Edm and Van from considering Nylander, I'm not going to admit I think he'll be better than Toronto's top prospect.
Though maybe he wants them to think he's playing games so they take him, leaving Dubois or Tkachuk to us.
Or maybe it's not Nylander he wants to trick Edm or Van into taking! Maybe he's trying to get them interested in Juolevi, again leaving Dubois or Tkachuk to us.
What if he's actually a lot higher on Brown and...
If I'm trying to deflect Edm and Van from considering Nylander, I'm not going to admit I think he'll be better than Toronto's top prospect.
Though maybe he wants them to think he's playing games so they take him, leaving Dubois or Tkachuk to us.
Or maybe it's not Nylander he wants to trick Edm or Van into taking! Maybe he's trying to get them interested in Juolevi, again leaving Dubois or Tkachuk to us.
What if he's actually a lot higher on Brown and...
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2 things we know:
- Treliving does everything in stealth and no one in the media usually has a clue (ie. Dougie and firing Hartley)
- Burke, is a poker player.
- Treliving does everything in stealth and no one in the media usually has a clue (ie. Dougie and firing Hartley)
- Burke, is a poker player.
I can actually see the Flames being very interested in Juolevi. He's been compared favourably to Brodie and really, who wouldn't want another Brodie on the team?
At the same time, there are rumors that both the Canucks and Oilers are considering Juolevi, so the possibility that this is just an attempt at mind games is definitely there. If either team is thinking about trading down to take Juolevi, maybe this forces them to reconsider and just take him where they pick. Which would then have preferably Dubois fall to Calgary.
At the same time, there are rumors that both the Canucks and Oilers are considering Juolevi, so the possibility that this is just an attempt at mind games is definitely there. If either team is thinking about trading down to take Juolevi, maybe this forces them to reconsider and just take him where they pick. Which would then have preferably Dubois fall to Calgary.
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