Proposal: Offer Sheet William Nylander

[Jamieh]

That's obviously the secondary concern, so you have to troll your way past the main point, but I already answered : they have to make tougher decisions and cap -squeeze moves and you hope you can benefit from one.

I get your theory, it's a good plan if the goal is to get Matthews. I just don't believe they other reason you post

 

[Alberta Yote]

Let’s worry about getting a long term place to play, an owner with pro sports ownership money and a winning record and then maybe it’s realistic to talk about offer sheets and Matthews.

 

[rt]

Brilliant.

Yes, I know what that means.

I can definitely see being better than 7-8 teams in the NHL. I can’t believe we could be better than 7-8 teams in our Conference. That would be awesome, but I’d be absolutely shocked. I feel like so many different things would have to align perfectly.

 

[Jakey53]

Endorsements in hockey are really nothing, especially compared to the other sports.

I would bet the super stars in the big markets make more on endorsements than salary, and AM is super star status.

 

[Mosby]

I really don't think so. A lot of guys have gear endorsements, but beyond that? I can't name many.

Crosby has Sportchek (Canada only), Gatorade, and Dempster's. Some of those may not be current anymore. But I can't really think of any non-gear endorsements.

 

[Jamieh]

I really don't think so. A lot of guys have gear endorsements, but beyond that? I can't name many.

Crosby has Sportchek (Canada only), Gatorade, and Dempster's. Some of those may not be current anymore. But I can't really think of any non-gear endorsements.

Nylander has Reebok as I said earlier. Matthews has Scotiabank deal worth millions. Part of the pitch to Stamkos a few years back was from the corporate world on how much they would like to pay him. Most of that money is now Matthew's. Read a piece a while back estimating at least $3 million a year for Matthews if he wants it.

 

[RemoAZ]

Matthews will get $14 million so he can be satisfied with Desert Financial. I need a new debit card anyway. My Coyotes logo is fading.

 

[Edenjung]

?

Ohhhhh, okay...

Hey that happens. at least i am honest. ;D

 

[ck26]

I assumed this was Nylander at $5m. All over that. At north of $7m? Nope.

 

[ck26]

Also, I'm glad this became about Auston Matthews by early page 2.

 

[IceNeophyte]

Max term and cash. All guaranteed. Live at home in Arizona.

That’s pretty good.

Or live in Vegas, which is like Arizona, except free of state tax and fun.

 

[Name Nameless]

Offer sheeting someone with the hope of getting matched must be the worst plan ever.

With the difference in value of high picks and low picks, I'd say offer-sheeting should only be done by sure-fire high play-off teams, like Tampa or Washington.

 

[_Del_]

It's not even a hope that they match-- I'd be thrilled to add a 22 year old, right -handed C/RW who has scored sixty points twice. Who wouldn't be? Even for the cost of a 1st, 2nd, 3rd at 7.3M x5.

I just think they'd match. And you know they'd match Matthews, but would also pay the five firsts if they didn't.

It's Cokes and smiles either way for me.



ETA: just for fun,

Keller-Galchenyuk- Fischer
Perlini-Stepan- Nylander
Grabner--Dvo-Vinny
Crouse/Cousins-Strome-Panik
Richardson

 

[Jamieh]

It's not even a hope that they match-- I'd be thrilled to add a 22 year old, right -handed C/RW who has scored sixty points twice. Who wouldn't be? Even for the cost of a 1st, 2nd, 3rd at 7.3M x5.

I just think they'd match. And you know they'd match Matthews, but would also pay the five firsts if they didn't.

It's Cokes and smiles either way for me.



ETA: just for fun,

Keller-Galchenyuk- Fischer
Perlini-Stepan- Nylander
Grabner--Dvo-Vinny
Crouse/Cousins-Strome-Panik
Richardson

That lineup might be a little rich for our Owner's pocket??

 

[Jamieh]

If you were Nylander would you sign an AZ offer for $500K more than a Toronto offer where you ride shotgun with Matthew's?? I'm not sure I would.

 

[_Del_]

Yes, I would sign the offer sheet because I'd fully expect the Leafs to match $500k more anyway.

 

[Jamieh]

Yes, I would sign the offer sheet because I'd fully expect the Leafs to match $500k more anyway.

I wouldn't take that risk to trade Matthews for Stepan, your next contract could be a lot less because of that move.

 

[_Del_]

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[Jamieh]

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

It seems you are the guy with a 10 point plan where the poor team uses offer sheets to cripple a rich team with the end game of getting the superstar. I'm just putting a little reality into your dream. Players don't just say yes because you put an offer to them, they still consider all the same variables they would if they were UFA.

 

[hbk]

Or live in Vegas, which is like Arizona, except free of state tax and fun.

Does Vegas have the cap space? I mean Tampa also has no state tax. Should we bring them up as well for no reason? How about Dallas? I mean honestly let’s talk about the viability of all the teams.

I think the point is that Matthews agent knows what his playing in AZ would do to the value of this franchise. We are assuming they would be interested based on this being his home town. It’s a big assumption but yeah no state tax. How about it.

 

[_Del_]

It seems you are the guy with a 10 point plan where the poor team uses offer sheets to cripple a rich team with the end game of getting the superstar. I'm just putting a little reality into your dream. Players don't just say yes because you put an offer to them, they still consider all the same variables they would if they were UFA.

You keep coming up with a zillion reasons we won't get Matthews.

Well, no shit.

I just said if people want a shot at Matthews, that is our best chance.

 

[Jamieh]

You keep coming up with a zillion reasons we won't get Matthews.

Well, no ****.

I just said if people want a shot at Matthews, that is our best chance.

Not really, I have said many times I see an issue with Matthews and Toronto, I could be misreading. I will however stick to what I tell you every single time, you are not getting Matthews via offer sheet. Further to that the Coyotes are definitely not a team that should be leading the charge to increase salaries as we have little money. We have our own prospects to sign and really shouldn't give their agent's ammo.

 

[IceNeophyte]

Does Vegas have the cap space? I mean Tampa also has no state tax. Should we bring them up as well for no reason? How about Dallas? I mean honestly let’s talk about the viability of all the teams.

I think the point is that Matthews agent knows what his playing in AZ would do to the value of this franchise. We are assuming they would be interested based on this being his home town. It’s a big assumption but yeah no state tax. How about it.

The tax thing was a joke, but you shouldn't rule Vegas out. cap space will be opening up.

 

[Etch]

I'd fully support the offer sheet. Nothing to lose really. I agree it helps our chances at one day getting Matthews (debatable by how much). You either force Toronto to have a harder go, or you get a early 20 year old 60 point Winger for a few picks. We don't win lotteries, so we're likely just giving up next years Hayton at worst.

I'm honestly shocked no teams have offer sheeted him yet, doesn't have to be us. There should be 30 other teams looking to make life harder for the Leafs over the next couple years.

 

[Grimes]

It seems you are the guy with a 10 point plan where the poor team uses offer sheets to cripple a rich team with the end game of getting the superstar. I'm just putting a little reality into your dream. Players don't just say yes because you put an offer to them, they still consider all the same variables they would if they were UFA.

When have they said no?