Offensive Defencemen

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  1. KidPoker

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    What do you think a list of the top 10-15 purely offensive defencemen not playing in the NHL would look like?
     
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    Vlasic is up towards the top....but really, I don't know too much about too many prospects other than the Shark's minor league boys....just thought I'd give him some props though!
     
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    Keith Yandle is another gifted offensive dman he had 85 points last year with moncton
     
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    I believe Vlasic made the Sharks and is therefor in the NHL (For now - he's still only 19 and can be sent back to junior).
     
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    It looks like Yandle has a chance of making the Coyotes this year, but it will likely be on the bottom pairing. Eventually he'll work his way up, and he's one of the most gifted offensive defenseman who has yet to play an NHL game, but the Coyotes are stacked on defense, so he's got his work cut out for him.
     
  6. WhiskeyYourTheDevils

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    letang is good
    i also think a sleeper is scalzo
     
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    Vlasic, Coulombe, Yandle, Letang, Scalzo ...


    A simple coincidence or the LHJMQ forms good offensive defender.
     
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    For pure offense,Pock should be on top of every wishlist....the problem is his shortcomings in defense....
     
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    He's actually looked fairly solid on the defensive side of things so far this year. He was even given a few PK chances.
     
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    Not really coincidence in that aspect. It's widely known the Q generates more offense than the other two junior leagues and therefore players' point totals will be exaggerated. Q d-men also have had trouble translating their game to the NHL level in the past few years. Try thinking of 3 d-men that play a significant role (Top 4 -dman, let's say) for their club right now that came out of the Q. Maybe with the new rule changes, things will gradually change but that's just conjecture for now...
     
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    It's a widely believed myth that the QMJHL generates more offense than do the other leagues.
     
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    Pock
    Sanguinetti
    Vlasic
    Yandle
    EJ
    Bourdon
    Letang
    Franson (Cody)
    Klein
    Gervais
    Smid
    Barker

    Some guys might be NHL this year though..
     
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    Myth? It's a fact. Look at the numbers...
     
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    Caps got a nice pair in Green and Schultz......perhaps even Patrick McNeill
     
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    I would've thought Barker would be further up the list. We'll see anyway, with the Hawks only naming 6 defenseman on their roster it looks like Barker will be playing this year with hopefully Cullimore being the 7th defenseman.
     
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    I believe the OHL has been fractionally higher scoring at times and the two are pretty equal.

    More top defensemen do come from the WHL and OHL though.
     
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    Which numbers are those?
     
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    Kirill Koltsov.
     
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    What about JJ? Heard he is at least similar to EJ.
     
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    Sanguinetti is ripping up the OHL thus far. Fourth in league scoring with 11 points (including six goals).
     
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    Sure add him to the list :) It's in no particular order though, just basically how I thought of them.
     
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    From last year alone:

    WHL - teams scored an average of 2.9 goals/game & average of 209 goals/team for the season
    OHL - 3.5 goals/game & average of 238 goals/team
    QMJHL - 3.7 goals/game & average of 259 goals/team

    It's been this way for a number of years. And the numbers from last year are going to be a little off because the WHL didn't use the new "crackdown" on obstruction penalties while the other two leagues did. If you went back to past years, there would be a bigger discrepancy between the "O" and the "Q".

    I'm still waiting on a list of Top 4 d-men that have come out of the Q in the last few years (let's say under the age of 30 so that's given them more than enough time to establish themselves---10+ years). Off the top of my head I can only think of:

    F. Beauchemin
    M. Bergeron (can be argued if he's even a top 4 guy right now, but I'm including him for arguement's sake)
    C. White

    And those aren't exactly "elite" d-men. So 3 d-men in the last 10 years have come from the Q and been able to play in a team's top four. Not a great number. I'm not knocking any league, just pointing out the differences. If we were to look at goaltenders the "Q" would thrive. But when it comes to producing NHL capable d-men, the "Q" has been lacking...
     
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    Sami Lepistö anyone?
     
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    Just recently I was wondering how his development was going. Does anyone have any reports? Is he on track, ahead of schedule, or falling behind? What's his ETA on the NHL scene?
     
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    Can't believe no one has mentioned Marc-Andre Gragnani
    Last season with the PEI Rocket he had 71 pts in 69 games
     

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