Offensive D-MEn
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Ott = Snott said:
He's leading the WHL in scoring, but not PPG in the Dub that belongs to Shea Weber
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Seven_Nation_Army said:He's leading the WHL in scoring, but not PPG in the Dub that belongs to Shea Weber
I know, but it's only been a few games and he didn't exactly have the history of an offensive contributor before entering the WHL either.
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Seachd said:Nope. Ryan Stone.
read the name of the thread...it says offensive dmen...i was implying that for defensemen in the dub
Could we consider that Whitney will have the best chance to shine immediately (considering what Jackman and Tarnstrom did with Pittsburgh)
His quick, hard, fast accurate slap shot that is going to get him plently of points on an NHL powerplay. His ability to read the play and actually carry the puck up ice is very underrated. He has finally been given more of a chance to produce, and he is.Ott = Snott said:
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MrMastodonFarm said:
A hard, accurate slapshot isn't something to get exciting about IMO, the latter part however is, if what you're saying is true. But there are tons of big stay at home defensemen in the NHL with imposing shots, from Derian Hatcher to Scott Hannan, and yet neither will ever put up more than 30 points baring a fulke season IMO.
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The offensive production is a combination of two things: offensive talents, and the defensive game that essintially determines the ice time, and, sometimes, if the player earns the spot on the roster. It is funny that IMO that if you consider the two aspects separately, the rankings would mirror one another:
The offensive talent:
1. Whitney
2. Barker
3. Phaneuf
4. Suter
The likelyhood of securing the top pairing icetime/earning the roster spot:
1. Suter
2. Phaneuf
3. Barker
4. Whitney
So, if you only consider only offensive output, the four prospects have roughly the same (fantasy) value, since both aspects contribute equally there. But in real life the second list is much closer to the real prospect value.
The offensive talent:
1. Whitney
2. Barker
3. Phaneuf
4. Suter
The likelyhood of securing the top pairing icetime/earning the roster spot:
1. Suter
2. Phaneuf
3. Barker
4. Whitney
So, if you only consider only offensive output, the four prospects have roughly the same (fantasy) value, since both aspects contribute equally there. But in real life the second list is much closer to the real prospect value.
Ott = Snott said:
Most people who haven't seen a lot of him seem to underrate his offense because he has a reputation as a defensive defenceman.
He was 2nd on his team in scoring last year, he had 23 goals in his draft year (two years ago), he's putting up points this year, Sutter recently said that he has as good an outlet pass as anybody he's seen, from watching him I'd say his point shot is better than anybody currently on the Flames.
So yeah, he's got a considerable offensive upside I'd say. He can do it all. Fans who've only read about him tend to think he's more defensive than he actually is because of the comparisons most people draw and some of the aspects of his game that have been the most hyped (hitting).
Ott = Snott said:
I don't really see Phaneuf's shot as being comparable to Hatcher or Hannan. His shot is much more like a Rob Blake.
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I've been watching scott Hannan for the past 6 years and I never once said to my self, wow what a shot..
Phaneuf makes you go "dammmmnn" when he shoots.
Suter
Barker
Phaneuf
WHitney
All four are prized players though in a keeper league.
Phaneuf makes you go "dammmmnn" when he shoots.
Suter
Barker
Phaneuf
WHitney
All four are prized players though in a keeper league.
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pavel datsyuk said:
No one has gotten it right yet. In terms of pure offensive potential:
Barker
Whitney
Suter
Phaneuf
In terms of best prospect:
Phaneuf
Suter
Barker
Whitney
The gap between each is tiny.
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Hmm, if it was a keeper league, I'd probably pick'em like this....
Barker - I really like him, hasn't been spectacular yet this season, but he's gonna be great IMO.
Phaneuf - MrMastodonFarm is right, Phaneuf has a better point shot than any D-man in Calgary right now.
Suter - Solid, I don't think he'll be quite as offensive as the two above him.
Whitney - Same as Suter, I don't think he's quite so offensive, but not bad at all.
Barker - I really like him, hasn't been spectacular yet this season, but he's gonna be great IMO.
Phaneuf - MrMastodonFarm is right, Phaneuf has a better point shot than any D-man in Calgary right now.
Suter - Solid, I don't think he'll be quite as offensive as the two above him.
Whitney - Same as Suter, I don't think he's quite so offensive, but not bad at all.
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Fuhr86 said:
what you mean to say was, "they were talking about offensive d-men and left out my team's prospect. don't do that, guyz"
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