Off the board picks that worked out well

[Sticks and Pucks]

Schiefele was not a reach... LOL, I remember cause I thought Ottawa would take him. Morrissey wasn't that big of a reach either

Ottawa also had the 21st overall pick of that draft. If Ottawa had expressed interest in Scheifele before the draft, I think people would have thought they would do so by either using the 21st pick or using that pick to trade up into the teens to take Scheifele.

 

[lwvs84]

Rick DiPietro in 2000 comes to mind. Heatley was the favourite to go first overall. DiPietro was expected to go 4th or 5th.

I was thinking a different goalie, but wasn't sure where Fleury was ranked

 

[Kale Clague]

Jaden Schwartz
Jeff Skinner
Mark Scheifele
Shayne Ghostisbehere
Chris Tierney

Less established
Christian Fischer
Jack Roslovic

Still developing but tracking well
Henrik Borgstrom
Erik Brannstrom - debatable if he was a reach but at worst was a very late riser
Elias Pettersson
Jordan Kyrou
Cliff Pu

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Eh, it's something I've been interested in for a while. I don't think we took TOO many off the board picks. The goalie, whose name I keep forgetting and am too lazy to look up is the worst one I think.

Al Montoya ?

Dan Blackburn ?

If the latter, damn the injury.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Al Montoya ?

Dan Blackburn ?

If the latter, damn the injury.

I don't remember who was on mind but I think I was referring to Lafleur.

 

[King'sPawn]

Simmonds wasn't ranked by any scouting service, not even CSS. He was taken 61st.

I'm not sure if Wheeler "worked out" for Phoenix considering he didn't sign.

But Scheifele's a good one. I think Oshie was considered off the board too.

 

[ffh]

picking someone in the 1st round that was considered to go in the 1st round is not a reach.

 

[TwoPiece]

Shayne Ghostisbehere

How is picking a player in their 2nd year of draft eligibility, in the 3rd round, a reach (or off the board)..?

 

[Brock]

Brent Burns was a surprise pick at #20, back in 2003.

He was also drafted as a forward, and then got converted to D by Minnesota

This is always the one that comes to mind for me.

Burns was a big time draft favourite of mine at the time, but even I was shocked to see him go in the first round.

He had, had a relatively quiet regular season. But finished the year (last 10-15 games, plus the playoffs) extremely strong and there was a lot of buzz being generated around him. Similar to the buzz surrounding Liam Foudy this year.

 

[VictorLustig]

Karlsson? I remember Ottawa fans hated the pick. Correct me if I'm wrong

Yeah, the Ottawa media too

Karlsson's 'a garbage pick,'

 

[howkie]

Yeah, the Ottawa media too

Karlsson's 'a garbage pick,'

S0 how much Crow has the reporter eaten over the years for that article?
And does Brian Samuel still hate Karlsson or does he have a big Collection of EK65 jersys?
Anyone checked it, would be hilarious if he is the biggest EK65 fan..

 

[WhatTheDuck]

This is always the one that comes to mind for me.

Burns was a big time draft favourite of mine at the time, but even I was shocked to see him go in the first round.

He had, had a relatively quiet regular season. But finished the year (last 10-15 games, plus the playoffs) extremely strong and there was a lot of buzz being generated around him. Similar to the buzz surrounding Liam Foudy this year.

Eric Tangradi had similar late season helium in his draft year. Only managed 5 goals and 20 points in 65 regular season games, but then vaulted himself into a second round pick with a playoff breakout- 8 goals and 17 points in 15 games.

 

[SergeConstantin74]

Sammy Blais at eliteprospects.com

He was playing Midget AAA in his Draft year which is a league most NHL prospects leave at 15.

 

[Kale Clague]

How is picking a player in their 2nd year of draft eligibility, in the 3rd round, a reach (or off the board)..?

Well for 1, he doesn’t have to be picked in the first or second round to be a reach. 2, he was predicted/ranked to go much later than the 3rd based on public sources. It’s all relative IMO

 

[Breakers]

Too many people in this thread are like ------ 'he was chosen 2 spots from where he was ranked'

That is not off the board.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

For a player to come from an unknown hockey country like Kazakhstan, and being taken 10th overall when he was rated in the 40s to 60s, Nik Antropov forged a pretty decent career.

 

[EON]

Hampus Lindholm is the poster child for this. I remember creeping on the Ducks board when that pick happened and they were absolutely furious. He's easily their top dman now.

 

[Rysto]

S0 how much Crow has the reporter eaten over the years for that article?

That would require him to have an ounce of shame. His excuse is that he didn't call it a garbage pick, he just quoted a fan who did.

 

[Vipers31]

Hampus Lindholm is the poster child for this. I remember creeping on the Ducks board when that pick happened and they were absolutely furious. He's easily their top dman now.

Definitely. Our board was imploding, and the main board threads were full of guys laughing, mostly at us, and some at McGuire for calling it a "steal". Those threads are always a treat to re-read. A blogger on a Ducks fan site really put the cherry on top when he wrote a piece on how Murray needed to be fired over that pick - including a petition! - because even if Lindholm turned out well, people would always wonder what could have been with Dumba, and that was "a terrible thing to do to a young kid [Lindholm]".

Those were some days.

 

[Kale Clague]

picking someone in the 1st round that was considered to go in the 1st round is not a reach.

Why not? Isn’t there a huge variance between the talent from the top of the first to the bottom?

 

[lomiller1]

Ottawa also had the 21st overall pick of that draft. If Ottawa had expressed interest in Scheifele before the draft, I think people would have thought they would do so by either using the 21st pick or using that pick to trade up into the teens to take Scheifele.

It's also possible that someone still thought he'd be there at 21. Most of the year he was ranked below that. He only climbed into the teens on a few of the final ranking just before the draft.

 

[Skippy73]

Filip Forsbergs dad?

Was he not supposed to go late first or in the second round?

Should we tell him?

 

[Brodeur]

Should we tell him?

My two buddies made fun of me when I told them that current NBA player Isaiah Thomas wasn't the son of former Pistons point guard Isiah Thomas. Since the two of them thought they were related, they insisted that they were right. Even after I looked it up for them, they refused to acknowledge that they were incorrect. [/coolstorybro]

 

[howkie]

Should we tell him?

Oh I know they are not related, but I would love it to be true :p

 

[Deam78]

Sammy Blais at eliteprospects.com

He was playing Midget AAA in his Draft year which is a league most NHL prospects leave at 15.

To be fair he played 25 games in the Q that year, so drafting in sixth round a kid with not many Q experience isn't that rare i think