hockeywiz542
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I'd probably offer 5/150, with a club option that extends it to 6/170. Something scaled like:
Y1 21m | Y2 31m | Y3 31m | Y4 31m | Y5 31m | Y6 25m option (5m buyout)
I have no idea. Maybe 6/150?
4/108 (21, 27, 30, 30), team option @ 28 with a 2m buyout...so basically 4/110 or 5/136
I really don't see how it gets lower than that on the AAV, unless you go into the nether regions of a 6th or 7th year. I'd love to say you can keep it in the three digits but unless Donaldson's willing to bet he can take a 3/90 or something and get another big deal afterwards I can't imagine it happening.
I still don't see why you would try to extend Donaldson now though. I don't see his value going any higher, nor do I see there being a true discount opportunity now. Wait until the end of next year, and if he throws up another 7 win season pay the man.
Wow. Well I respect your opinions. Will be interesting to see where it ends up.
Just for context, if I take the Beltre contract and hit it with a multiple of 1.5x, I get:
32: 21MM
33: 22.5MM
34: 24MM
35: 25.5MM
36: 27MM
for 5 @ $120MM.
Wow. Well I respect your opinions. Will be interesting to see where it ends up.
Just for context, if I take the Beltre contract and hit it with a multiple of 1.5x, I get:
32: 21MM
33: 22.5MM
34: 24MM
35: 25.5MM
36: 27MM
for 5 @ $120MM.
But what does 1.5x signify? It's been what, 6 years since that contract was signed? The FA deals are much richer now, plus Donaldson is a much better player.
That was just a fast way of accelerating the old contract up for the years that have passed. I haven't had a chance to be at the laptop today. 1.5x is a material jump though with a contract that was already built to inflate as time went on.
The contract you quote though makes him the highest paid position player in the league in terms of aav (as of now), which I can only assume you're incorporating Machado and Harper and the money they will get in two years to make the number not stick out like that. Which is fine, this is all opinion based. I simply feel the Turner deal certainly ties a weight to the one Donaldson would possibly sign this offseason. However, like Aub said, both sides really don't have incentive to lock in right now.
What if you assume his defense won't hold up over the whole contract and decide to treat him as a 1B in the future to be safe? Then you end up with Votto and Cabrera as the best comps.
Barring a major dropoff, Donaldson will assuredly earn somewhere between 25-30M over a 4-5 year deal. Likely looking at more if he continues to perform at MVP level for the next two years. He deserves it but I think it would probably be a mistake to keep him beyond his FA years as he is going to be nearly 33 when he hits FA.
If the team performs poorly this year and isn't a contender, I think they should deal him at the deadline. If the team continues to be a contender for the next two years, you try to win and at the end, thank Donaldson for how awesome he has been here and let him walk.
It would be terrible asset management to let him walk, think of it this way;
We bought donaldson low, and the investment turned out great as we got the best possible outcome from it.
If the FO feels like it isnt in the teams best interest to keep him, then you trade him, and you get a better return than you gave out to get said player, and you are in a better position than you were when you started.
If you let him walk, then your giving up the asset for nothing, and your not managing your business very well.
Hopefully 7/200 is enough to keep Donaldson.
Hopefully 7/200 is enough to keep Donaldson.
Being a contender and taking a run at winning isn't "nothing".
As I said, if they are not a contender, trade him.
Donaldson is only 31 and is pretty much a gold glove level fielder now. I doubt he is moving to 1b for at least 6/7 years.
I say trade Donaldson and cash in. We desperately need to restock our system while also still trimming our payroll cause we all know Rogers won't dish $160-200M to field a championship team.
Again, like I said, in that case the FO would sign him, because if they believe we're contenders, then Donaldson is in the long run with that. You still should not let someone go for free, especially when they are of MVP caliber.
Again, like I said, in that case the FO would sign him, because if they believe we're contenders, then Donaldson is in the long run with that. You still should not let someone go for free, especially when they are of MVP caliber.