GDT: October 16th Leafs at Caps 7:00pm on SN1

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DueDiligence

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Come on man. EVERY SINGLE ANALYST SAID WE ARE NOT BUILT TOUGH.

EVERY SINGLE ONE.

And Dubas proudly admitted that he believes skill wins out in the end. So here we are. This is what we have.
Kadri was the one skilled guy that played "bigger" than his weight. Leafs have great talent but little grit.
 
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Not My Tempo

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Sometimes I wonder about some posters here. Complete meltdowns every time we lose. A passion shouldn't be that unhealthy for you.
Honestly sometimes when I see myself approaching a meltdown, I’ll just take a week off HFBoards/Leafs reddit etc... it’s easy for my negative emotions to get amplified when I’m around other negative people. Or I’ll focus on doing non-hockey related things like playing video games. You’re right that it shouldn’t be unhealthy
 

Dave92

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If the Leafs owners fire a HoF coach, after firing a HoF GM to accommodate a guy with no pro hockey experience and a borderline disaster of a track record in 1 year on the job. They deserve the misery coming to them.
 
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Kiwi

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Sometimes I wonder about some posters here. Complete meltdowns every time we lose. A passion shouldn't be that unhealthy for you.

There entitled to be pissed off, I've never followed a more talented team that can't get out of its own way

Just play with some effort, it's not that complicated
 

ORRFForever

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and when he does, who does Dubby place blame on?

that is the reason Dubby won't fire Babcock.
This team is too soft. It is what it is. Not sure how you fix it with zero salary cap available.

Now... if Matthews and Marner had taken $1.5M each less... they'd still be rich and we'd have a little money to spend.

I say trade Nylander.
 

Blanche Blanche

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and when he does, who does Dubby place blame on?

that is the reason Dubby won't fire Babcock.

I always say... If Dubas only reason is to not fire babcock is because he will look like Moneyball idiot handing contracts based on snipes and overpaying...

Well... There goes another decade of Hockey obscurity. We have a window and Babcock needs to be replaced by someone who can build a team with speed plays vs Chip and pass.
 

Ryan Michaels

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I'm right there with ya. I predict a wild card race or worse.

And guess what?!

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE OUR FIRST ROUND PICK!!!! (we won't finish bottom 5)

And guess what else!?

WE HAVE NO MONEY TO SIGN ANYONE SO WE WILL BE EVEN WORSE NEXT YEAR!!!!

All praise Dubas and our greedy ****ing movie stars who wrecked this team for at least what? 6 years?

Is your caps lock broken? No one's thrilled with tonight you don't have to use caps lock to be taken seriously...in fact I guarantee it does the opposite
 

Leafs87

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and when he does, who does Dubby place blame on?

that is the reason Dubby won't fire Babcock.

Im most surprised Shanahan is letting this kind of shit slide. He didn’t strike me as that kind of guy. I was hoping he’d be bad cop in the negotiations and get a fair deal at least. But this shit and the no accountability is surprising to me. He came in all piss and vinegar to ditch Phanuef and Kessel because of their embarrassing compete level. We not have the same compete level from an all new crop of players
 

Big Cactus

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You seem to think our players are capable of playing like all these teams you just listed.

Has it ever occurred to you that they, quite simply, can not?

I don't care watch coach is in charge, William Nylander is always going to play like a *****.
Labanc, Palat, Marchessault, Keller, Schwartz, Barzal. Every one of those teams I listed has a player that thrives on the perimeter. If you think one player changes a team you need to watch more puck. We could easily have a system like Tampa San Jose or Vegas. Not sure what you’re saying here.
 

Stephen

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There entitled to be pissed off, I've never followed a more talented team that can't get out of its own way

Just play with some effort, it's not that complicated

I think they bought their own Kool Aid and think they’re one of the most talented teams. They’re not nearly talented enough to play this loose.
 
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MSZ

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2 goal deficit only 20 mins to go I would mix it up and roll the lines especially since we are on a back to back and have boston coming up next we need 2 points against boston; divisional rival its a 4 point game

Based on what we saw in the first six games plus two periods tonight, no way they can win against Boston.
 

Canadian Finn

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Another reason could be that Shanahan won't let him.

Maybe that is true.

Shanny has the experience to recognize the teams problems aren't driven by Babcock, as much as some of this fanbase wants to believe.

Babcock has his issues, but the teams current success (or lack thereof) is a result of one person, and that person isn't Babcock.
 

Nithoniniel

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Honestly sometimes when I see myself approaching a meltdown, I’ll just take a week off HFBoards/Leafs reddit etc... it’s easy for my negative emotions to get amplified when I’m around other negative people. Or I’ll focus on doing non-hockey related things like playing video games. You’re right that it shouldn’t be unhealthy
You sound like a smart person. I respect people who know themselves that well.
 

LeafsLegendAkiBerg

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AJ stays before Nylander. You get the same player pretty much for less money.

We need to dump marner.

With fans like these we legit don't deserve star players. Watch other teams. Their stars don't look amazing 82 games a year and every shift.

But yeah, let's just dump Marner for whatever we can get and restart the rebuild so we can shit on whatever player we draft a few years from now.
 
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The Apologist

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There entitled to be pissed off, I've never followed a more talented team that can't get out of its own way

Just play with some effort, it's not that complicated
That second period was a shit show of everything going wrong all at once.
Before that they were playing pretty damn well.

Oh and Marincin, I don't know if he just had the worst luck inh but it seems like every time he's out there the puck ends up in our net.
 
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