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alko

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1983-84
44 of 66
1984-85
59 of 90 (this has to be some kind of record...!)
1985-86
41 of 70
1986-87
43 of 69

Total:
187 of 295 = 63.4%

Another way to put this is that of those 295 goals those four seasons by Kurri, when Gretzky had an assist on a goal, 80% of the time it was the primary assist.

Nice. Now im curious, if there were any other, even if not so great, duos.
 

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With a population of about 6,000 at the time, Kenora, Ontario, became the smallest town to ever be home to a Stanley Cup champion in 1907. When the Thistles lost the Cup two months later, it also became the fastest town to lose the Cup.
 

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In 1921 brothers Corbett Denneny of Toronto and Cy Denneny of Ottawa both scored 6 goals in a game, they are the only brother combo to have ever done this.

Co-incidentally they were both against the same goalie: Howard Lockhart of Hamilton.
 
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Mark Messier and Ray Bourque are the only two players to play against both the Atlanta Flames and Atlanta Thrashers
Good one!

It's particularly good because a few oldies still kicking by autumn 1999 had started playing in the NHL from The Flames' first season in Calgary (Oct. 1980) but not the year prior -- Larry Murphy, Paul Coffey, Guy Carbonneau.
 

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From 1981-82 through 1984-85 (four seasons), these were the top point scorers in the NHL:
821 - Gretzky
500 - Bossy
482 - Stastny
442 - Dionne
439 - Savard

These are the short-handed points each scored in this period:
59 - Gretzky
4 - Bossy
7 - Stastny
7 - Dionne
0 - Savard
 
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When he retired in 1999, Wayne Gretzky (despite being only one man, and only playing 20 seasons for one team at a time) had scored or assisted on 1.3% of every goal in the entirety of NHL history.

If my assumptions are correct that would mean that when the Lockout wiped out the season, Gretzky still was involved at least in 1% of all goals scored during the history of the NHL.

Also, if Gretzky has continued to dress for games after his retirement without ever stepping on ice, he would have fallen below point per game (playoffs excluded) in 11th game of 2017/2018 season.
 
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I saw this on another site as earlier this year Patrick Marleau didn't play in a Sharks vs Leafs game which was the first game between the two teams he didn't play in since March 1997
 

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From 1972-2011 the Sabres missed the playoffs on 9 occasions.

From 2011-2020 the Sabres missed the playoffs on 9 occasions.

#ThanksTerry

I think this is largely a function of the playoffs being much harder to qualify for now.

E.g., from their inception until the lockout, the Blues only missed the playoffs three times out of 37 seasons.

Since the lockout they have missed the playoffs six times out of 15 seasons.
 

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Adam Oates and Chris Chelios are older than Grant Fuhr.

Brett Hull is older than Pat Lafontaine and Steve Yzerman.
 
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Only 23 players have scored at a PPG pace in the Stanley Cup Final for atleast three times in their career. Of the 23, only three of them were at PPG pace each time they made the Stanley Cup Final:

Wayne Gretzky (6/6)
Pete Mahovlich (4/4)
Bobby Orr (3/3)

I'm sure not many would have thought Pete Mahovlich as the third player on the list with Gretzky and Orr.
 
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In the 1966/67 season Montreal rookie goaltender Rogie Vachon filled in for Gump Worsley after Worsley was hit in the eye by an egg thrown during a game in New York. Vachon ended up playing 19 games his rookie season thou I'm not sure how many games in a row he played after Gumps egg eye injury.
 

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In the 1966/67 season Montreal rookie goaltender Rogie Vachon filled in for Gump Worsley after Worsley was hit in the eye by an egg thrown during a game in New York. Vachon ended up playing 19 games his rookie season thou I'm not sure how many games in a row he played after Gumps egg eye injury.

I think that they limited Vachon to 19 games. Had he played 20, he'd have been eligible for the upcoming expansion draft. Due to this trick, the Canadiens were able to keep both Worsley and him.
 

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In the 1966/67 season Montreal rookie goaltender Rogie Vachon filled in for Gump Worsley after Worsley was hit in the eye by an egg thrown during a game in New York. Vachon ended up playing 19 games his rookie season thou I'm not sure how many games in a row he played after Gumps egg eye injury.

Vachon made his NHL debut on February 18, 1967, against Detroit. He played 19 of the Canadiens' 20 remaining games to close out the season. The one game he didn't play was on March 11 against Chicago, when Worsley played (Worsley also played 3 minutes the next night against the Rangers, but I can't find who started). So it does look like what @DJ Man said, that they kept him under 20 games to get around the expansion draft.

And for reference, NHL.com has game-by-game records for all players now, so you can see when they played and so on.
 
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Scoring 80 goals in one complete season, regular season + playoffs, has occurred 14 times in history (all since 1971).

Of the 14 occurrences:
4 x Gretzky
2 x Bossy
2 x Lemieux
2 x Brett Hull

The other four, who each did it once, are Jari Kurri, Alex Mogilny, Teemu Selanne, and Reggie Leach.

The "90 in total" club, in order:

100 - Wayne Gretzky 1984
97 - Wayne Gretzky 1982
97 - Mario Lemieux 1989
97 - Brett Hull 1991
90 - Jari Kurri 1985
90 - Wayne Gretzky 1985

It seems odd that there's such a drop from fourth to fifth and sixth.

(Fun to speculate how many goals Gretzky would have had in '84 if not missing six games, and Gretzky, Lemieux, and Hull in their 97 goal seasons if their teams hadn't crapped out in the first or second round.)


By the way, who had the most total goals (RS + playoffs)in a season, pre-expansion?
 

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By the way, who had the most total goals (RS + playoffs)in a season, pre-expansion?

A few that I checked (haphazardly - not from database):
  • Beliveau 1956 (59), 1959 (46)
  • Hull 1962 (58), 1967 (56), 1966 (56), 1964 (45)
  • Richard 1945 (56), 1947 (51), 1951 (51)
  • Geoffrion 1961 (52), 1955 (46)
  • Howe 1953 (51), 1952 (49), 1951 (47), 1957 (46), 1963 (45)
  • Mahovlich 1961 (49)
  • Ullman 1965 (48)
  • Moore 1959 (46)
  • D. Bentley 1944 (46)
  • Maloine 1918 (45)
  • Clapper 1930 (45)
A few others I checked under 45 - Weiland, Morenz, Mikita
 
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I think that they limited Vachon to 19 games. Had he played 20, he'd have been eligible for the upcoming expansion draft. Due to this trick, the Canadiens were able to keep both Worsley and him.

Vachon made his NHL debut on February 18, 1967, against Detroit. He played 19 of the Canadiens' 20 remaining games to close out the season. The one game he didn't play was on March 11 against Chicago, when Worsley played (Worsley also played 3 minutes the next night against the Rangers, but I can't find who started). So it does look like what @DJ Man said, that they kept him under 20 games to get around the expansion draft.

And for reference, NHL.com has game-by-game records for all players now, so you can see when they played and so on.

Interestingly he also played 9 of the 10 playoff games for Montreal that season as well. The only playoff game he didn't start and play in was the final game of the finals against the Stanley Cup Champion Toronto Maple Leafs.
 
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Interestingly he also played 9 of the 10 playoff games for Montreal that season as well. The only playoff game he didn't start and play in was the final game of the finals against the Stanley Cup Champion Toronto Maple Leafs.

If he'd have made Smythe and Rookie-of-the-Next-Year, he'd have been Ken Dryden, v 1.0.
 
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frisco

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Only three of the NHL's top 35 all-time plus-minus leaders started their careers in the 90's or later (Lidstrom, Jagr, Chara) and zero of the 35 debuted in this century.

My Best-Carey
 

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The only teenagers to receive Hart votes are A.Matthews, S.Stamkos, S.Crosby, R.Nash, E.Lindros, T.Barrasso, D.Hawerchuk, W.Gretzky, B.Orr, H.Lumley.

My Best-Carey
 

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In the 1952 - 53 NHL playoffs Montreal's regular goalie Gerry McNeil asked to be relieved from duty "for the good of the team".

Montreal had won the first 2 games before Chicago then won 3 straight when his request was made.

Rookie goalie Jacques Plante, who had seen action in only 3 NHL games sparkled in a 3 - 0 win as his replacement.

Plante went on to play game 7 which Montreal won and also played the first 2 games of the finals against Boston winning the 1st and losing the 2nd.
 

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The only teenagers to receive Hart votes are A.Matthews, S.Stamkos, S.Crosby, R.Nash, E.Lindros, T.Barrasso, D.Hawerchuk, W.Gretzky, B.Orr, H.Lumley.

My Best-Carey

If we're getting real technical here, Stamkos and Lindros never received Hart votes as teenagers. they were 20 when those votes were cast.
 

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Jaromir Jagr and Gordie Howe both had 23 straight NHL seasons with at least 15 goals notwithstanding WHA/KHL breaks.

My Best-Carey
 
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