Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYR] Rangers agree to terms with Shestyorkin and Kravtsov (official in May)

[klingsor]

I sure hope these guys are more ready than the "NHL-Ready" Lias Andersson was (and still is).

 

[KingDeathMetal]

I would kill to see the Rangers somehow trade into the Top 5-7 picks and land Bowen Byram. I know, we're already guarantee Hughes or Kakko, I'm greedy - but Byram is going to be a monster on somebody's blueline. We have the pieces to swing that deal.

 

[ShameOnYouZidlicky]

Exciting time to be a Rangers fan. They’re doing all the right things for their rebuild

 

[780il]

I would kill to see the Rangers somehow trade into the Top 5-7 picks and land Bowen Byram. I know, we're already guarantee Hughes or Kakko, I'm greedy - but Byram is going to be a monster on somebody's blueline. We have the pieces to swing that deal.

Why would a team that's in the top 5-7 range give up that pick for lesser picks and bottom 6 players? Which is pretty much all you'd want to part with.


It's a pipe dream.

 

[KingDeathMetal]

Why would a team that's in the top 5-7 range give up that pick for lesser picks and bottom 6 players? Which is pretty much all you'd want to part with.


It's a pipe dream.

Where did I say I'd trade bottom six and lesser picks? At least ask me first. ;-) All I said was I'd love to see us find a way to get it done.

If a team wanted Kreider in a sign and trade plus the WPG 1st and a 2nd to get their pick - say Buffalo - I think that's fair value. If they would want a different top six player, that's also fair.

 

[Lays]

I sure hope these guys are more ready than the "NHL-Ready" Lias Andersson was (and still is).

Lias Andersson has looked good since the call up. Sure we thought he’d be NHL ready a little earlier but that was only due to his great defensive game. His skating has held him back a lot

 

[780il]

Where did I say I'd trade bottom six and lesser picks? At least ask me first. ;-) All I said was I'd love to see us find a way to get it done.

If a team wanted Kreider in a sign and trade plus the WPG 1st and a 2nd to get their pick - say Buffalo - I think that's fair value. If they would want a different top six player, that's also fair.

That is actually a fair deal. I'd do that for #8.

But the thing is Byram won't fall past Detroit at 6. So you'd have to trade with LA/Colorado/Chicago who would all much rather hold onto their picks and just draft at that spot.

 

[Leonardo87]

 

[SML2]

I can't believe people think anyone else is going to give up a top 10 pick. You don't get to walk away with everything. Think of how you would feel if we traded down out of the top ten. You'd be furious. The GMs of other teams have to answer to their fans as well. It's not all a feeder program for us.

 

[SML2]

Where did I say I'd trade bottom six and lesser picks? At least ask me first. ;-) All I said was I'd love to see us find a way to get it done.

If a team wanted Kreider in a sign and trade plus the WPG 1st and a 2nd to get their pick - say Buffalo - I think that's fair value. If they would want a different top six player, that's also fair.

Sign and trades are rare in the NHL. The only benefit is that you can do 8 years instead of 7 and honestly I think that's a long deal for a guy like Kreider.

 

[ElLeetch]

I can't believe people think anyone else is going to give up a top 10 pick.

we traded for the 7th OA just two years ago. Its not outlandish.

Stepan+Raanta for the 7th OA + ADA, is not far off from a package of Kreider+22nd OA for a 7-9 OA

 

[SML2]

we traded for the 7th OA just two years ago. Its not outlandish.

Stepan+Raanta for the 7th OA + ADA, is not far off from a package of Kreider+22nd OA for a 7-9 OA

It's not impossible, but the way the chips fall this year, nobody who has top ten pick is a Kreider away from being a playoff team. It more the sellers lining up wrong than idea that a top ten is available. None of them are in win now mode and they are all in similar or equal rebuilds.

 

[StreetHawk]

It's not impossible, but the way the chips fall this year, nobody who has top ten pick is a Kreider away from being a playoff team. It more the sellers lining up wrong than idea that a top ten is available. None of them are in win now mode and they are all in similar or equal rebuilds.

Kreider has a year left on his deal. And not eligible to extend until after the draft so it’s a big gamble for an Edm and Van.

Leaves Buf and Ana. Anaheim needs to find out what their young forwards can do. Buffalo, see how much they feel they need to take a step. Detroit should keep their pick.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Maybe this will open the path for Sorokin to sign soon?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Skjei is still around. ADA broke out this season. Pionk is a decent bottom-pair. Then we have Rykov, Lindgren, Hajek close to ready, then Miller, Lindqvist, Reunanen further off, but all had great development seasons this year.

We are missing a big #1 stud D guy, but the rest are filling in nicely in the future.

Sounds like you guys need to pass on Kakko for Byram

 

[crackdown44]

Where’s Rykov at though

Figuring out our goalie problem is gonna be tough as well, what the hell do we do with all 3 of Shestyorkin, Hank, and Georgiev? Maybe start Shesty in the AHL like Samsonov and then trade Georgiev at the TDL?

Edit-
Also in case anyone wants to know more about Kravtsov, here’s a 10 min highlight video of this season (#74 in black/white)

Only thing with waiting to move Georgiev at the TDL is that his value likely won’t be higher than it is now. He had some huge games, especially in the 2nd half and teams tend to address their goalie issues in the summer more than at the TDL. If they’re sold on Shestyorkin (they should be) I think they should pull the trigger this summer

 

[Polar Bear]

Sounds like you guys need to pass on Kakko for Byram

Only if you guys pass on Kakko for Cozens.

 

[Lays]

Maybe this will open the path for Sorokin to sign soon?

Maybe, Sorokin and Shestyorkin are also close friends

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Rangers are going to be so sick to watch in the future

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

That is actually a fair deal. I'd do that for #8.

But the thing is Byram won't fall past Detroit at 6. So you'd have to trade with LA/Colorado/Chicago who would all much rather hold onto their picks and just draft at that spot.

Just you wait, he will. Detroit will throw a party and others will cry

 

[Ori]

I`m glad that those two were signed and welcome to New York Rangers!!

 

[Mortivore]

 

[klingsor]

Lias Andersson has looked good since the call up. Sure we thought he’d be NHL ready a little earlier but that was only due to his great defensive game. His skating has held him back a lot

I see no reason why Lias cannot be a good NHL player, but he was hyped as a DAY ONE 3rd line NHL center to begin with.

 

[bfaust30]

Shets' deal is only 2 years and has an AHL out clause. Said he would stay in Hartford. Vitali is full ELC

 

[Savant]

Kakko and Kravtsov is a hell of a 1-2 punch at rw.

Shestyorkin is a stud as well

They just need to fix their awful defense and they'll be a good team for a long time.


Also, does this mean you guys can trade Georgiev to Edmonton now?

Edmonton cannot help the Rangers fix their awful defense. Would rather trade with a team that can