topshelf15
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Sounds about right lolare Sens Cap-strapped?
Smith received a bonus payment in July, his actual $$ well below Cap Hit - also known as a 'classic Melnyk'
Sounds about right lolare Sens Cap-strapped?
Smith received a bonus payment in July, his actual $$ well below Cap Hit - also known as a 'classic Melnyk'
This should be the exact type of move the Sens make. Low risk. If Lias doesn’t pan out they don’t give up too much but if he does they get a good middle 6 FWD that has skill and plays like a giant A-holeI actually really like this for both sides. In such a strange off-season I would hope the Sens would weaponize their cap space to get higher end assets (young roster RHD and more 1sts at the top of that list), but given Melnyk's unwillingness to spend I think this is probably a more realistic trade. Sens can give Lias a year or two in their lineup and Smith fills Borowiecki's role (if/when he walks) better than Reilly can.
Reilly for Smith alone is a wash for NYR
are Sens Cap-strapped?
Smith received a bonus payment in July, his actual $$ well below Cap Hit - also known as a 'classic Melnyk'
Fox has zero value in retaining him? What are you talking about. It doesn’t matter if Lias comes back you don’t sell low just because.You’re missing the point, different situations. Fox had zero value in retaining him and they would have lost him the following year anyhow. I don’t believe that Lias will come back and has 0 value in retaining him, his value in my proposal was to get rid of Smiths cap hit. Whether or not the proposal is agreeable is another thing.
See your point, we don’t have to do it but looks beneficial in my view. I don’t see a team accepting a 5th for even half of B Smiths cap hit (2.675) in this environment.
No need to spend assets to move Smith. As someone already pointed out, the Rangers have few options at LD right now (Lindgren, Smith, and Staal are the only proven options). They also aren't in any kind of cap crunch that necessitates a move like this. Also, with their post-season experience, I'd rather hold on to Staal and Smith and see what playoff teams might give for them at the deadline with retention. I wouldn't be surprised if the Rangers could pick up a 3rd rounder (or even a 2nd, depending on the trade market).
We do, buying out Hank will put us about 500k in the black for cap if we’re cheap with the RFAs. Dumping Smith’s cap and getting an NHLer, arguably better, back at 1.5 would cost us Lias imho. After this deal, we’d go into next season with 1.5-2 mil of space on a 22 man roster.We need to clear space if we intend to re-sign all our RFAs.
We do, buying out Hank will put us about 500k in the black for cap if we’re cheap with the RFAs. Dumping Smith’s cap and getting an NHLer, arguably better, back at 1.5 would cost us Lias imho. After this deal, we’d go into next season with 1.5-2 mil of space on a 22 man roster.
Forgot about bonuses, I’m fuzzy but they can hit the cap in the upcoming year, after some of our less than desirable contracts end?We are already exceeding the bonus cushion without Laf, which means we have to fully account for his potential bonuses. As a 1st overall pick, he will get max bonuses, which essentially puts his cap hit at 3.775 mil.
Forgot about bonuses, I’m fuzzy but they can hit the cap in the upcoming year, after some of our less than desirable contracts end?
Yeah. I’m totally fine with keeping Smith. He has been good back on D and it’s going to be his contract year. I’d trade him, of course, but not as a dump. No idea if another team is interested in that. But if not, that’s fine.Rangers are in no need to trade prospects to unload a contract.
Honestly, I don’t see the Rangers trading anything better than a 5th round pick to trade B. Smith. He is still useful for us since we are weak on the left side.
It is not like OTT is doing this deal and it doesn’t benefit them. This helps the owner be even cheaper and hit the cap floor while spending even less.
Andersson has no value at this point lol
Add to that couldn’t Ottawa take on others teams deadweight where the bonus was already satisfied by the originating team?Ottawa really doesn’t need help to hit the cap floor. They only have 10 players under contract. That means they only need to spend $20m on 13 players. They’ll be above the floor just filling out the roster
If he hits all bonuses, we're going to have a special season. And we'll deal with the following season. These are all potential bonuses. I don't think Fast will be back. Injuries will happen and our RFA signings is really up in the air depending on what they want.We are already exceeding the bonus cushion without Laf, which means we have to fully account for his potential bonuses. As a 1st overall pick, he will get max bonuses, which essentially puts his cap hit at 3.775 mil.
If he hits all bonuses, we're going to have a special season. And we'll deal with the following season. These are all potential bonuses. I don't think Fast will be back. Injuries will happen and our RFA signings is really up in the air depending on what they want.
We need to clear space if we intend to re-sign all our RFAs.
Does that include bonus money to Kakko,Laf,Fox as well?We do, buying out Hank will put us about 500k in the black for cap if we’re cheap with the RFAs. Dumping Smith’s cap and getting an NHLer, arguably better, back at 1.5 would cost us Lias imho. After this deal, we’d go into next season with 1.5-2 mil of space on a 22 man roster.
Why are we trading smith? We don’t need cap room....
Actually he might garner a mid round pick at the tdl since he can be a serviceable depth D
Does that include bonus money to Kakko,Laf,Fox as well?
We have about 7 mil in perf bonus possibilities not including Laf. any bonuses achieved in 20-21 would hit whatever the left over cap offers and then the residual would roll into 21-22 as a cap hit. It’s not a 20-21 problem but agree we have to plan a 21-22 hit esp with Igor and Laf. Which bonuses do you think will hit?Does that include bonus money to Kakko,Laf,Fox as well?
Igor will hit 2.85, Fox hits 850,000,Chytil,Lindgren will get some bonus money especially if Block Shots is a category Lindgren could get the whole amount.We have about 7 mil in perf bonus possibilities not including Laf. any bonuses achieved in 20-21 would hit whatever the left over cap offers and then the residual would roll into 21-22 as a cap hit. It’s not a 20-21 problem but agree we have to plan a 21-22 hit esp with Igor and Laf. Which bonuses do you think will hit?