Proposal: NYR/CAR deal (again)

[De Montreal]

I'm not sure if they are allowed to deal again but somehow they make good trade partner

To NYR :
Martin Necas
115th overall pick (CAR 4th round)

To CAR :
22th overall pick (CAR 1st round)
Alexandar Georgiev

Reasoning behind this is :

Rangers re-unite Czechmate Necas and Chytil, and/or they get a natural centreman with top-6 potential to play with Lafrenière some day. He's NHL ready, which is a big plus in comparaison whoever they would draft with CAR pick at 22th.

Carolina top 6 is stack at the moment. They have guys like Geekie, Foegele and Suzuki who can step-in Necas place right away. They get a good 1B goaltender, which solve a big of their netminding issue, and they get back their 1st.

It seems to me it solve both team issues in the present, while not hurting them much in the long-term neither.

What you think?

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[spockBokk]

Awful

Give that head a shake if you think that’s well thought out for CAR

 

[MinJaBen]

Change our first for your first.

 

[Nico Hischier]

I don’t think Carolina is going to give up Necas that easy

 

[Savant]

Sorry Carolina fans

 

[AKL]

I love when a deal is clear in favor of one team, and the team that's getting ripped off still has to add a mid round pick as if that's somehow balancing anything. Those are my favorite trades.

 

[De Montreal]

Okay, so what piece would the Rangers need to add in that scenario? K'Andre Miller?

 

[spockBokk]

Okay, so what piece would the Rangers need to add in that scenario? K'Andre Miller?

Sure, cause if it’s one thing the Canes really need is more of is LD with Slavin/Skjei/Gardiner/Fleury/ Bean.

 

[AKL]

Okay, so what piece would the Rangers need to add in that scenario? K'Andre Miller?

I entirely doubt Carolina is interested in a package deal for Necas. They have quality players and depth almost everywhere on the roster. If they're trading for Necas, it would probably be to address a need and the player coming back would very likely be better than Necas. Otherwise there's no point in trading him.

 

[De Montreal]

I entirely doubt Carolina is interested in a package deal for Necas. They have quality players and depth almost everywhere on the roster. If they're trading for Necas, it would probably be to address a need and the player coming back would very likely be better than Necas. Otherwise there's no point in trading him.

And if it was a for top-end goaltender? Would that be enticing?

 

[AKL]

And if it was a for top-end goaltender? Would that be enticing?

Probably not, but it depends on how Carolina views said goaltender in comparison to Necas. There are very few goaltenders I would trade Necas for though, personally. I can think of 2-5 that I would consider, but their teams wouldn't trade them for Necas, most likely.

 

[spockBokk]

And if it was a for top-end goaltender? Would that be enticing?

You have a Gibson or Shesterkin to offer? No? Well, then nothing to really talk about in regards to Necas then

 

[De Montreal]

You have a Gibson or Shesterkin to offer? No? Well, then nothing to really talk about in regards to Necas then

I really didnt thought the Hurricanes were thinking of him so highly. He did some pretty good first seasons with the pro. But I'm still expecting him to become more of a 2nd liner than a 1st liner, and with the logjam of good forwards of the Hurricanes that's why I thought it could benefit them to trade him for a goaltender

 

[spockBokk]

I really didnt thought the Hurricanes were thinking of him so highly. He did some pretty good first seasons with the pro. But I'm still expecting him to become more of a 2nd liner than a 1st liner, and with the logjam of good forwards of the Hurricanes that's why I thought it could benefit them to trade him for a goaltender

He was on pace for 20g and 40pts as a 20yr old rookie. He’s likely to shift to Center in the next few years. He’s got 2 yrs of ELC left and is expansion draft exempt.

Why wouldn’t they think very highly of him?

 

[De Montreal]

He was on pace for 20g and 40pts as a 20yr old rookie. He’s likely to shift to Center in the next few years. He’s got 2 yrs of ELC left and is expansion draft exempt.

Why wouldn’t they think very highly of him?

I knew they were thinking highly of him, but not '' we wouldnt trade him for any goaltender except Gibson or Shesterkin '' high. That's fine, I just wasnt expecting that.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Canes at no

 

[Gardner McKay]

That is an absolute steal for the Rangers. No way it happens.

Some combination of the 22nd + Kravtsov would make more sense. Even then, I don't see why the Hurricanes trade Necas.

 

[TGWL]

I don't see why Canes give up a prospect like a player like Martin Necas, for a goalie who isn't a guaranteed starter, or upgrade. I know everybody loves "1st round picks", but some teams have no need for spending valuable assets to acquire a player 3-4 years out from making their NHL roster. Hurricanes are one of those teams. I also don't understand the obsession with "re-uniting" players. Do you really think at an NHL level that's going to be a major difference?

We're better off trying elsewhere because this isn't happening and we're not offering the package Canes would want.

 

[GoldiFox]

Okay, so what piece would the Rangers need to add in that scenario? K'Andre Miller?

A piece worth Necas would need to be added. Georgiev and #22 are sweeteners in that deal.

NYR doesn't have the right piece for a Necas deal. Laf and Kakko are way too much. 3 nickels for a quarter type deal isn't remotely interesting for an expansion exempt piece.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Carolina’s biggest mid to long-term need is a quality center to pair with Svechnikov to play above or below Aho and Teravainen. Necas has that upside. That type of forward core will be necessary to compete with the Lightning and Rangers for the East in the future.

 

[Nico Hischier]

Of course Carolina values necas highly. He was just drafted in 2017 12 overall and projects as a big first line center who is already playing in the nhl. I would think they think as highly of him as rangers think of kravstov who was drafted a year later at 9 overall but projects as a first line winger who is not playing in the nhl yet.

 

[spockBokk]

I knew they were thinking highly of him, but not '' we wouldnt trade him for any goaltender except Gibson or Shesterkin '' high. That's fine, I just wasnt expecting that.

Canes would likely have to add to Necas in a trade for a high-end G with term, but with all the goaltenders available at the moment and the Canes’ dire need of secondary scoring, it really makes no sense to deal Necas for anything less. In fact, with their cap situation, it doesn’t really make sense at all to trade contributing NHL players on their ELC.

 

[TGWL]

I really didnt thought the Hurricanes were thinking of him so highly. He did some pretty good first seasons with the pro. But I'm still expecting him to become more of a 2nd liner than a 1st liner, and with the logjam of good forwards of the Hurricanes that's why I thought it could benefit them to trade him for a goaltender

Using that logic - Why would you trade a 2nd line, exempt player for that package after making the playoffs 2 years in a row?

 

[AKL]

He was on pace for 20g and 40pts as a 20yr old rookie. He’s likely to shift to Center in the next few years. He’s got 2 yrs of ELC left and is expansion draft exempt.

Why wouldn’t they think very highly of him?

Is he? He's not good defensively and he's pretty atrocious in the faceoff circle. Seems more like a long term RW.

 

[spockBokk]

Is he? He's not good defensively and he's pretty atrocious in the faceoff circle. Seems more like a long term RW.

I’d think he’ll be taking the Seguin route to C. First few years at RW, then switch over when completely comfortable with the NHL game and his body more filled out. It’s been mentioned around the org, well from their Athletic writer, that it’s likely one of the reasons they went out and got Trocheck. Trocheck can handle duties at C for 2 years, then when his deal is up at the end of those 2 years, Necas takes over.

And it’s not like he won’t be able to learn how to win a face off or play in his own zone with Brind’Amour coaching him.

However, who knows, maybe he sticks as a RW. It’s not like the Canes are currently lacking in C prospects (Geekie, Suzuki, Rees, Cotton, Drury, etc.)