Proposal: NYR and TBL

[One Winged Angel]

Rangers fans keep attempting to argue he's better defensively and it's hilarious.

Try watching him play on a nightly basis before posting stuff like this. You couldn’t be more misinformed if you tried.

 

[TBF1972]

After reality set in most of the TML fans have come to earth. Now the NYR fan base on hfboard has started their ascend to the moon. Good luck on your journey.

 

[TGWL]

After reality set in most of the TML fans have come to earth. Now the NYR fan base on hfboard has started their ascend to the moon. Good luck on your journey.

Are you sure? Because we can sell you on a lot of under underwhelming players we have.

We're happy with the rookie season Fox has. He by far exceeded all expectations. That doesn't mean we don't think sergachev is good

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Sergachev has played like a #1D and in a handful of games has had more impact than Hedman. He is carrying aging guys like Coburn or bad defenders like Shattenkirk while putting good numbers offensively.

He's not a guy you trade and Rangers are happy with their guy too.

And regarding Tony D, not even close. No thanks.

 

[TBF1972]

Are you sure? Because we can sell you on a lot of under underwhelming players we have.

We're happy with the rookie season Fox has. He by far exceeded all expectations. That doesn't mean we don't think sergachev is good

I agree with the bold, which actually means he might has overachieved this season. But some of your fellow Ranger fans immediately come to the conclussion, he will further improve at the same or even at a higher rate.

 

[One Winged Angel]

I agree with the bold, which actually means he might has overachieved this season. But some of your fellow Ranger fans immediately come to the conclussion, he will further improve at the same or even at a higher rate.

That’s the problem right there. You use that word as if he didn’t have the ability to be an impact defender right off the bat. If you watch the plays he makes, the little ones that don’t show up on the scoresheets that you have to actually watch the full games to see, he makes plays well beyond his years that show an exceptionally high hockey IQ in all 3 zones.

They’re going to work on his skating, strength and conditioning and he’s only going to get better. Adam Fox will be a stud for years to come.

 

[Joey Bones]

Fox is staying on his account and management's account.

 

[aufheben]

Rangers fans keep attempting to argue he's better defensively and it's hilarious.

It's not rocket science.

 

[bernmeister]

NY keeps Fox

 

[Zahra Starker]

It's not rocket science.

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The only thing your graph proves is that NYR are better with fox in the lineup. Idk how that proves he is better defensively.

 

[Zahra Starker]

You don’t watch him play at all. Take a hike.

you could say he is really good defensively but exceptional is basically saying he is flawless and I don't think he is close to being flawless.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Strictly choosing between the two players, with no defenceman on my roster, I’d probably take Fox.

Even if the Rangers have a surplus of RHD now, I wouldn’t move Fox for a LHD.

Those high-end right-shot defenceman are tough to find, and you’ve got to build for the long-term.

 

[One Winged Angel]

you could say he is really good defensively but exceptional is basically saying he is flawless and I don't think he is close to being flawless.

Definition of EXCEPTIONAL

ex·cep·tion·al | \ ik-ˈsep-shnəl , -shə-nᵊl \
Definition of exceptional
1: forming an exception : RAREan exceptional number of rainy days
2: better than average : SUPERIORexceptional skill
3: deviating from the norm: such as
a: having above or below average intelligence
b: physically disabled

Don’t see the word “flawless” in there.

 

[One Winged Angel]

The only thing your graph proves is that NYR are better with fox in the lineup. Idk how that proves he is better defensively.

It proves when he’s on the ice, the other team has far less high quality danger chances against.

If you watched him on a nightly basis, you’d know how it works.

 

[Zahra Starker]

Definition of EXCEPTIONAL



Don’t see the word “flawless” in there.

Sure I agree with you if you are saying that Fox is " Above the norm" or "better than average"

 

[One Winged Angel]

Sure I agree with you if you are saying that Fox is " Above the norm" or "better than average"

Why are you continuing to try to play semantics with me?

 

[Zahra Starker]

Why are you continuing to try to play semantics with me?

lolllll. How is that semantics if it's literally the definition you pulled up.

 

[Zahra Starker]

It proves when he’s on the ice, the other team has far less high quality danger chances against.

If you watched him on a nightly basis, you’d know how it works.

Dude ok so to prove that he is better defensively than offensively you pull up a graph that basically says the opposition has far less chances when he is on the ice than when he isn't?? Where does the offence come into play.

if I watched him on a nightly basis id know how it works?? I assume by "it" you mean defence?? So I have to watch fox to know how defence works??

 

[One Winged Angel]

Dude ok so to prove that he is better defensively than offensively you pull up a graph that basically says the opposition has far less chances when he is on the ice than when he isn't?? Where does the offence come into play.

if I watched him on a nightly basis id know how it works?? I assume by "it" you mean defence?? So I have to watch fox to know how defence works??

No, you’d have to watch Fox to know how he plays defense. You’d be able to see that he maintains possession, is amazing at avoiding forecheckers and moving the puck, rarely dumps the puck, making the excellent first pass out of the zone or even stretch passes that lead to chances for the forwards and has a great stick and is extremely adept at breaking plays up.

But continue to attempt to dissect something you don’t have the wherewithal to be dissecting.

 

[The S5]

Fox is simply the better hockey player. Add that he is cost controlled and the Rangers hang up the phone immediately.

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

In this trade I don't think it's about who's better because both are good players....I agree with others it comes down to contact status and that Fox is not expansion draft eligible looking at those 2 factors if I'm Rangers I don't make the deal.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

An unbiased onlooker - Fox is easily the better player. TBL fans need to watch some NYR games.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

as a tampa fan who owns a serg jersey id take it and run lol

 

[Wierzbowski426]

Yet another Rangers player who is ridiculously overhyped after slightly over half his first nhl season.

Sample size is way to small to give Fox the edge here.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Yet another Rangers player who is ridiculously overhyped after slightly over half his first nhl season.

Sample size is way to small to give Fox the edge here.

That’s not how this works. You either have the value or you don’t. Teams don’t put a games minimum on when you acquire a certain amount of value. If they did, McDavid wouldn’t have been the best player his rookie season.