Welcome to a Leafs player poll. Willie would've lost to a mannequin bc reasons.What today has taught me more than anything else is that HF has an extreme recency bias in these polls.
What today has taught me more than anything else is that HF has an extreme recency bias in these polls.
Welcome to a Leafs player poll. Willie would've lost to a mannequin bc reasons.
In an HF poll, the only thing that trumps the player who scored most recently is the mystery box.
Meier does bring some things to the table that Nylander doesn't. I don't think it trumps the skill difference though.
James Neal is a bum on a horrible contract, I don't see the issue with Sorensen winning that poll?No, not convinced it has anything to do with the Leafs when Marner just crushed Kessel and Marcus Sorensen just slaughtered James Neal. Seems more like HF polls are now just based on who is doing better this season and nothing else.
James Neal is a bum on a horrible contract, I don't see the issue with Sorensen winning that poll?
Apparently, as seen in the Marner Vs. Kessel thread where Marner is the mystery box and the guy who has scored most recently.
The other thing to consider is that HF (and the hockey community in general, including GMs) vastly overrates physicality. If two players have the exact same impact, but one of them does it through physicality, while the other does it through finesse, the player who does it through physicality will win.
I can guarantee you that Neal will never be that prolific goal scorer in Calgary. He's not the same player anymore imoThe poll doesn’t take contracts into account and James Neal has a history of being a prolific goal scorer while Sorensen was playing in the AHL last year as a 25 year old.
The other thing to consider is that HF (and the hockey community in general, including GMs) vastly overrates physicality. If two players have the exact same impact, but one of them does it through physicality, while the other does it through finesse, the player who does it through physicality will win.
100% correct.
Welcome to a Leafs player poll. Willie would've lost to a mannequin bc reasons.
Welcome to a Leafs player poll. Willie would've lost to a mannequin bc reasons.
Personally I would take the player that does things through finesse. More longevity, health, and consistency from year to year.
So, even if every single vote for Meier was just done entirely out of “Anti-Leafs bias”, the number of votes from Maple Leafs fans still cancels that out.
1/3 of them definitely are, and not all Nylander voters are Leaf fans. NaslusMarkand....c'mon.
I fully agree. The physical player will have to prove that he fully outclasses the finesse player.
A player in this comparison, went against another player, who is not in this poll and more physical.
That physical player does very well, but never reached the numbers of the finesse player, on both sides
of the puck and lost.
That's only assuming that the players are equal though. Dont forget, you were calling it pro leafs bias that Johnsson had like 20% of the vote vs JvRYeah, and now that we have a bigger sample size, it’s pretty clear how these polls work.
I just counted and there are 26 Leafs fans who voted for Nylander. That’s more than half of the votes for Nylander and the same exact number of votes for Meier.
So, even if every single vote for Meier was just done entirely out of “Anti-Leafs bias”, the number of votes from Maple Leafs fans still cancels that out.