Speculation: Nylander V - The Management Strikes Back (ALL Nylander Discussion HERE)

[ChaoticOrange]

De haan for Nylander then?

... what? That’s even worse.

You’re making me defend the Leafs and I do not like it.

 

[Leafsfan13]

Pesce 1 for 1

 

[Dustin]

De haan for Nylander then?

No thank you. If Drouin can return Sergachev the Leafs would look at more for Nylander.

 

[bluedevil58]

... what? That’s even worse.

You’re making me defend the Leafs and I do not like it.

There is none of Slavin, Pesce, or Hamilton that could return a Nylander in a 1 for 1. Leafs would have to add for Pesce.

 

[The Burdened]

Neutral fan.
It would take Pesce +.

why not just fax over a 5 x 7.5 offer sheet?
I would gladly part with a mid 1st round pick for Willie. I mean, they have the Buffalo 2nd round which may as well be a late 1st.

I feel like their new owner should be all over this. They need marketable personalities, they need an exciting offensive player, they REALLY need a proven C, and they have surplus of D strength they can trade from. Nylander checks all the boxes.

 

[bluedevil58]

Pesce 1 for 1

Need to add.

 

[StreetHawk]

2019 2nd
Fox
Faulk(35% retained)/Fleury

For

Nylander

Thoughts? If the counter is Pesce then Leafs will need to add. Reason being Pesce is under a favorable long term contract and William isn't.

Maybe build it around Hamilton instead of Faulk. Canes get to keep Pesce.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

2019 2nd
Fox
Faulk(35% retained)/Fleury

For

Nylander

Thoughts? If the counter is Pesce then Leafs will need to add. Reason being Pesce is under a favorable long term contract and William isn't.

In any trade for Nylander your going to have to give something up that you really dont want to. I see nothing of that sort in this trade

 

[firstemperor]

We wouldn't move Nylander for Faulk.

It would cost either Svechinkov or Pesce + 1st +. Not sure if I'd do the latter, as Pesce's ceiling is pretty limited. The last thing I'd be happy seeing is Nylander killing it for years to come on another team.

 

[Tweed]

1. LOL what else do you think that means?

"It's not you, it's me."

 

[ChaoticOrange]

There is none of Slavin, Pesce, or Hamilton that could return a Nylander in a 1 for 1. Leafs would have to add for Pesce.

That’s an opinion, certainly.

Toronto’s also under no obligation to trade Nylander for a handful of B assets or a #4 defenceman.

 

[bluedevil58]

We wouldn't move Nylander for Faulk.

It would cost either Svechinkov or Pesce + 1st +. Not sure if I'd do the latter, as Pesce's ceiling is pretty limited. The last thing I'd be happy seeing is Nylander killing it for years to come on another team.

So a 23 year old mobile d man that can play defense and is big and is 23 and his ceiling is limited? At what age do d men reach their peak then?

 

[Dustin]

... what? That’s even worse.

You’re making me defend the Leafs and I do not like it.

I do my part in defending the Oilers so it's only fair.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Neutral fan.
It would take Pesce +.

why not just fax over a 7 x 7.5 offer sheet?
I would gladly part with a mid 1st round pick for Willie. I mean, they have the Buffalo 2nd round which may as well be a late 1st.

I feel like their new owner should be all over this. They need marketable personalities, they need an exciting offensive player, they REALLY need a proven C, and they have surplus of D strength they can trade from. Nylander checks all the boxes.

Because 7 x 7.5 would mean giving up 4 1st rounders... you take the total contract value and divide by five to get the compensation AAV.

 

[The Mentalist]

This is awful for the Leafs. Fox and Fleury are AHLers at this point. Faulk is Gardiner-esque with his give aways. The only interesting piece is the 2nd that too depends on where the Canes finish.

 

[The Burdened]

Because 7 x 7.5 would mean giving up 4 1st rounders... you take the total contract value and divide by five to get the compensation AAV.

According to this, it's a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
2018 Offer Sheet Compensation

EDIT: n/m I see

 

[bluedevil58]

According to this, it's a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
2018 Offer Sheet Compensation

How does this work? Carolina for example proposes an offer to Nylander if he accepts Canes owe the leafs a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd?

 

[The Burdened]

How does this work? Carolina for example proposes an offer to Nylander if he accepts Canes owe the leafs a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd?

ah I missed the part about dividing the total nubmer by 5.

So if I'm Carolina, I'd offer 5 x 7.5 instead of 7.

 

[Lunatik]

There is no fit. The Flames don't have room for another forward and can't afford to deplete their blueline for a luxury

 

[Stickpucker]

This is awful for the Leafs. Fox and Fleury are AHLers at this point. Faulk is Gardiner-esque with his give aways. The only interesting piece is the 2nd that too depends on where the Canes finish.

Please explain how Fleury is an ahler?

 

[LucicAndChong]

Nylander + Gardiner for Pesce + Fleury?

 

[Tit]

Nylander + Gardiner for Pesce + Fleury?

I would do that in a heartbeat if I was Toronto.

 

[bluedevil58]

Nylander + Gardiner for Pesce + Fleury?

As of right now, Nylander is a depreciating asset the longer this unsigned situation occurs. Hard no to this trade.

 

[LucicAndChong]

As of right now, Nylander is a depreciating asset the longer this unsigned situation occurs. Hard no to this trade.

what if a contract is already in place?

 

[LeafChief]

As of right now, Nylander is a depreciating asset the longer this unsigned situation occurs. Hard no to this trade.

Lmao. A 21 year old depreciating asset coming off back to back 60 point seasons.

Yes - missing 1 game has significantly reduced his value. Give us Di Giuseppe and we'll call it a day.