Proposal: Nylander to NYR

[Alluckks]

William Nylander
(Let's take out Gardiner because that was dumb)

for

K’andre Miller
Vlad Namestnikov
2020 2nd round pick

I floated the general idea of this on the Rangers board, and most were not receptive - but I’d want to gauge other perceptions

If not this deal, is there a variation around Miller for Nylander that works?

Thanks.

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[Funk21]

Ummmmm how are we trading a player who is a UFA?

Please stop.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Ignoring the fact that Gardiner is a UFA, why would the Rangers have any interest in him? He is turning 29 in a month, is about to get paid rather handsomely and makes no sense for a team that is in the middle of a rebuild with contention several years away.

Add into that fact that you take our best D LHD prospect who is meant to have a huge role in the future of this rebuild and it makes even less sense.

I like Nylander. Many Rangers fans don't. I'd be happy to have him. But this package just doesn't make sense for us at all. Remove Gardiner and replace Miller with either a young player or prospect (preferably forward) and I think you're much closer to the reality.

 

[RangerBoy]

William Nylander
Jake Gardiner

for

K’andre Miller
Vlad Namestnikov
2020 2nd round pick

I floated the general idea of this on the Rangers board, and most were not receptive - but I’d want to gauge other perceptions

If not this deal, is there a variation around Miller for Nylander that works?

Thanks.

[MOD]

Do you realize the Rangers can talk to Gardiner starting on June 23 which is today? The player is a free agent. Why are the Rangers trading for him?

The last thing the Rangers need is another high priced and overpaid veteran D.

[MOD]

 

[wej20]

Gardiner is an UFA and the free agent speaking period opens today, so his rights are worth nothing at this point. So basically it is Nylander for Miller, Namestnikov and a 2nd. Value wise it is pretty decent (though I'm not sure Leafs would want to take that much cap back if they moved Nylander) but given Miller had a great first year at Wisconsin it seems highly unlikely to me that they'd move him.

 

[Liferleafer]

Well first off, you can sign Gardiner for free....secondly? I wouldn't trade Nylander alone for the rest.

 

[ETTER DE]

Maybe OP is thinking of Zaitsev and not Gardiner? Anyhow, Rangers dont have enough cap room without moving a couple of players. Or by out someone.

 

[JayKnowsHockey]

Lol

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Nylander for Miller with potentially small adds would be more interesting than this.


Not sure either team does this. Miller had a monster of a season.

 

[Nickmo82]

 

[Jayan]

Miller aint going anywhere. We more or less traded McDonaugh + Nash for the combine pick that got him.

 

[free0717]

No

 

[Digitalbooya]

If New York trades Miller they would be making a mistake. Trust me.

 

[Waivers]

Miller isn’t going anywhere.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Rangers hold on to what could be their first apostrophe player ever

 

[bernmeister]

William Nylander
Jake Gardiner

for

K’andre Miller
Vlad Namestnikov
2020 2nd round pick

I floated the general idea of this on the Rangers board, and most were not receptive - but I’d want to gauge other perceptions

If not this deal, is there a variation around Miller for Nylander that works?

Thanks.

I like the intent but not the execution.
at the right price, Nylander is ideal RW complement for speedy Fs Kreider and Nieves.

But no surrender of Miller.

what works?

Deangelo rfa + Buch rfa + expiring Namest at half = 2.0
for
Nylander

that works for Leafs, as they save $ by bridging rfas for multiple positions while moving a semi-larger contract. Plus Buch is a top 6 scoring W, and Deangelo has arrived. Namest is a stopgap who can be swallowed at half.

Rangers consolidate and get the asset w/mo upside that is more likely to better complement our higher talented Fs.

 

[MisterT]

Nylander and Zaitsev for Trouba and Miller works for Toronto as this thread is all about improving one team while ignoring the needs of the other.

 

[Kocur Dill]

Nylander and Zaitsev for Trouba and Miller works for Toronto as this thread is all about improving one team while ignoring the needs of the other.

GR8 B8 M8

 

[Shootertooter]

I like the intent but not the execution.
at the right price, Nylander is ideal RW complement for speedy Fs Kreider and Nieves.

But no surrender of Miller.

what works?

Deangelo rfa + Buch rfa + expiring Namest at half = 2.0
for
Nylander

that works for Leafs, as they save $ by bridging rfas for multiple positions while moving a semi-larger contract. Plus Buch is a top 6 scoring W, and Deangelo has arrived. Namest is a stopgap who can be swallowed at half.

Rangers consolidate and get the asset w/mo upside that is more likely to better complement our higher talented Fs.

No, we can just keep Buch who will likely will have a similar impact to Nylander for much less money.
ADA is now a top 4 dman on this team. A year from now or when his bridge deal is over they can revisit moving him as the newer guys develop. I think they need him right now. They don't need Nylander or his 6.9M cap hit.

In the OP, no chance NYR moves Miller.

 

[Liferleafer]

I like the intent but not the execution.
at the right price, Nylander is ideal RW complement for speedy Fs Kreider and Nieves.

But no surrender of Miller.

what works?

Deangelo rfa + Buch rfa + expiring Namest at half = 2.0
for
Nylander

that works for Leafs, as they save $ by bridging rfas for multiple positions while moving a semi-larger contract. Plus Buch is a top 6 scoring W, and Deangelo has arrived. Namest is a stopgap who can be swallowed at half.

Rangers consolidate and get the asset w/mo upside that is more likely to better complement our higher talented Fs.

In a current world of RFAs saying screw you to bridge deals? I think i'll take s break from the RFA thing for a while.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Leafs aren't trading a proven 60 point winger who's only 23 with top line potential for a defensive prospect who looks like he'll be great but hasn't done jack all in the NHL. Next.

 

[OB34KNH]

It's laughable that K'Andre Miller is percieved to have more value (ON HF-Boards) than Willie Nylander.

Nylander has had back to back 60 point seasons. His bad half-a-season is an outlier.
He just tore up the hockey world cup (competing against the likes of Kucherov, Ovie, Malkin, Kane, etc..)

Nylander has ONE bad HALF-A-SEASON, and, suddenly he's a cap dump. Yes, I do realize I am on HF-Boards where shiny new toys are a fetish ---- HOWEVER, you need to fathom reality.

 

[Zats Muccarello]

No way the Rangers are moving K'Andre Miller and if they were it certainly wouldn't be for Willy Nylander lol

 

[TGWL]

It's laughable that K'Andre Miller is percieved to have more value (ON HF-Boards) than Willie Nylander.

Nylander has had back to back 60 point seasons. His bad half-a-season is an outlier.
He just tore up the hockey world cup (competing against the likes of Kucherov, Ovie, Malkin, Kane, etc..)

Nylander has ONE bad HALF-A-SEASON, and, suddenly he's a cap dump. Yes, I do realize I am on HF-Boards where shiny new toys are a fetish ---- HOWEVER, you need to fathom reality.

Most NYR fans are saying he has more value to us because he's somebody we really need. So, I guess keep laughing?

 

[SA16]

It's laughable that K'Andre Miller is percieved to have more value (ON HF-Boards) than Willie Nylander.

Nylander has had back to back 60 point seasons. His bad half-a-season is an outlier.
He just tore up the hockey world cup (competing against the likes of Kucherov, Ovie, Malkin, Kane, etc..)

Nylander has ONE bad HALF-A-SEASON, and, suddenly he's a cap dump. Yes, I do realize I am on HF-Boards where shiny new toys are a fetish ---- HOWEVER, you need to fathom reality.

I am a Ranger fan and I agree with you completely.

Miller does not have anywhere near as much value as Nylander. The only reason anyone should be hesitant about dealing him for Nylander is because of the Leafs cap situation it may be worth trying to take advantage of them and get him cheaper.