Confirmed Signing with Link: [NSH] Nashville Extends Ryan Ellis, (8 Years, $6.25M AAV)

[hamzarocks]

Ellis would be the Leafs top D-man.

No he would not. Rielly is quite comfortably a better defender than ellis is. Rielly broke out offensively and played well defensive despite playing se really tough minutes. Ellis would be better than Gardiner but not rielly. But this contract is fair cap wise, but 2 years too long. Still ellis is a great number 2 guy who can put around 50 points from the second pairing. Preds just need to lock up josi on a couple of years and their core is set. They also always draft great defenders so they will be prepared in case they lose josi or subban leaves 4 years down the line.

 

[DoobieDubas]

good deal for 3/4 the contract and the remaining 1/4 won't be that bad of a deal either. wondering how they structured the deal.

 

[GeauxPreds1]

Ellis would be the Leafs top D-man.

As much as I like Ellis he wouldn't be the Leafs top D man.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

That’s a really nice contract.

 

[Tysonson3]

McDonagh for 7 @ 6.75
or
Ellis for 8 @ 6.25

?????

Ellis comes without a nmc and outscores mcdonagh. I know who id take

 

[Tomas W]

Must be nice to have that financial security locked up until you are a 36 y old.

More like until you are 86, if you dont do anything stupid.

 

[Alan Wake]

Playing for a contender in a tax free state-itis

The worst kind of medical issue known to man.

Fantastic signing, Nashville.

 

[mouser]

Everyone says tax rates aren’t a big factor in the league because major UFAs never sign in Nash or Florida etc but then seem to sign good players for below market contracts consistently.

Clearly it is a factor when retaining players on favorable contracts

You're looking through your own rosy glasses. Ellis is a very very good Dman who has never played top 2 minutes on his team. He just signed an extension that would make him the NHL's 21st highest AAV defenceman in 2019, a year before he could hit the UFA market.

Which defencemen have signed bigger UFA contracts to change teams? Only Ryan Suter and Keith Yandle so far as I can tell.

Ellis got paid, especially on the 8 year term.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Don't know why people are complaining about the tax rates here (and this is coming from a bitter Habs fan). This is not a below market deal.

 

[Bizz]

MILES better than Dumba and on a better contract with around the same AAV. This is what separates winning teams like Nashville and Pretenders/Bubble teams like Minnesota.

 

[The S5]

McDonagh for 7 @ 6.75
or
Ellis for 8 @ 6.25

?????

McDonagh, all day, every day. Utilize Ellis the same way McDonagh has been utilized his entire career and the choice is more than obvious.

 

[pheasant]

Don't know why people are complaining about the tax rates here (and this is coming from a bitter Habs fan). This is not a below market deal.

I mostly agree. But the cap-hit is a bit lower than I would have expected. It's pretty clear that he took a lower dollar figure to get more term. And that makes a lot of sense for a player that didn't break out in the NHL right away.

Any team would want him for that price.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Preds outplayed Pens everywhere but in net.

That's why you need elite talent up front. Switch goalies in that series and the result is the same.

Phil kessel will score more goals in 5 chances than colton scissons will in 10.

 

[thadd]

Pretty sure this is a great deal for both parties.
Nashville is paying for 7 UFA years and Ellis has become a very solid top 4 d-man.

 

[haveandare]

Good deal. Great aav and no clauses, but that’s a ton of term.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

Gave extra term to get the avv down, looks like a win win for both Ellis and Nashville.

 

[triggrman]

That's why you need elite talent up front. Switch goalies in that series and the result is the same.

Phil kessel will score more goals in 5 chances than colton scissons will in 10.

Phil Kessel had 2 assist in 6 games, Colton Sissons had 4 goals 1 assist in 6 games.

 

[JustaFinnishGuy]

That's why you need elite talent up front. Switch goalies in that series and the result is the same.

Phil kessel will score more goals in 5 chances than colton scissons will in 10.

Wow what an observation, do you have more wisdom to share with the commonfolk?

Switching goalies earlier makes the series more competetive. Losing 2 games on PIT ground with no contest from Pekka was never going to be a winning strategy. Too bad he went on a tear before the finals so there was no room to switch him out.

 

[Soundgarden]

And they lost back to back years by a team with finishers. Winnipeg and Pitt. They could have prime Hamhuis and Timonen to play behind their current top 4 and it doesn’t matter.

They beat the Pens in 2017 IMO with another guy who can finish regularly. Even with Rinne sucking out loud.

That's why you need elite talent up front. Switch goalies in that series and the result is the same.

Phil kessel will score more goals in 5 chances than colton scissons will in 10.

You guys do realize that we had to play Gaudreau because Johansen broke his leg on a fluke play right? Or that we couldn't/didn't want to play Riberio because of his alcoholism. We don't need to upgrade at forward just because you don't know anything about our team.

 

[Viqsi]

Here is how I would personnally rank, as of today, the top defensemen in the NHL for the 2018-2019 season:

1. Erik Karlsson, OTT
2. Victor Hedman, TBL
3. Drew Doughty, LAK
4. Roman Josi, NSH
5. Brent Burns, SJS
6. PK Subban, NSH
7. John Klingberg, DAL
8. Alex Pietrangelo, STL
9. Zachary Werenski, CLB
10. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, ARI
11. Ducan Keith, CHI
12. Dustin Byfuglien, WPG
13. John Carlsson, WSH
14. Kristopher Letang, PIT
15. Marc-Edouard Vlasic, SJS
16. Ryan McDonagh, TBL
17. Shayne Gostisbehere, PHI
18. Torey Krug, BOS
19. Dougie Hamilton, CAR
20. Shea Weber, MTL
21. Mark Giordano, CGY
22. Ryan Suter, MIN
23. Aaron Ekblad, FLA
24. Morgan Rielly, TOR
25. Tyson Barrie, COL

... these are all, on top of my head, defensemen I would pick without hesitation over Ellis on my team.

After that, a case could be made with a buch of young up and coming defensemen that I would probably rank higher than him because of their upside (Provorov, Dumba, Ristolainen, Dahlin) and other proven veterans (Yandle, Muzzin, Brodie, Parayko, Shattekirk, Spurgeon).

To put him in the 25-35 range would be a fairer assessment in my opinion.

I'd put him in with guys like Letang/McDonagh/Gostisbehere/Vlasic/Krug, in that list.

On the other hand, you forgot Seth Jones.

 

[BHD]

One of the best contracts in all of hockey, just like that.

The contract isn't bad, but it's far from "one of the best." He's being paid around what he should get (maybe a bit less), but on a long-term deal. The deal, though, follows what Poille has (judiciously) done with others players. Offer them security in return for taking less money.

 

[Clayonator]

The contract isn't bad, but it's far from "one of the best." He's being paid around what he should get (maybe a bit less), but on a long-term deal. The deal, though, follows what Poille has (judiciously) done with others players. Offer them security in return for taking less money.

When you factor in that he would have been paid 8+ annually on the open market it absolutely equates to one to the best in hockey not only in a relative value sense, but also due to him just entering his prime with his best offensive years likely still ahead of him.

 

[BHD]

His contract is similar to those of Fowler, McDonagh (the most recent one), and Vlasic. So unless he's a Hedman-level player, his contract seems just about right.

 

[mpp9]

You guys do realize that we had to play Gaudreau because Johansen broke his leg on a fluke play right? Or that we couldn't/didn't want to play Riberio because of his alcoholism. We don't need to upgrade at forward just because you don't know anything about our team.

Caps played without Backstrom for much of last postseason. Pens won without Letang.

Injuries happen.

The fact you don’t have the depth to overcome it says otherwise when it comes to upgrading your forward group.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

Preds outplayed Pens everywhere but in net.

The metrics do not bear this out