Notice Pierre McGuires bitterness?

tfantasy

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I really started to notice his bitterness towards the end of the tournament. When he started arguing with Gord Miller I knew something was wrong with Pierre.
 

tfantasy

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I really started to notice his bitterness towards the end of the tournament. When he started arguing with Gord Miller I knew something was wrong with Pierre. Gord said something like the puck flew up into the crowd and Pierre was like no the player shot it into the crowd on purpose, theres a difference... It was the way he said it that bugged me.
 

Voodoo Child

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You'd be bitter too if you wanted to take advantage of a drunken, elated Ryan Ellis after his gold medal win but never got to.
 

ponder

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What's wrong with Pierre having a Canadian bias when he commentates international games for TSN? Most announcers clearly cheer for the home country on national broadcasts, the whole point of commentators is to get you excited and into the game. I'm not a fan of Pierre personally, but the main thing he brings to the table is his emotional style, without it he wouldn't be nearly as successful as a commentator.
 

rushockey

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I don't like when Pierre is wrong on certain things but nobody can take away his passion for the game. I think he is a legend already. Just imagine Pierre not being part of the WJC crew anymore - it would be just so wrong.

He also is a hockey fan with his bias and everything - it is totally fine.
 

Aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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I can't believe some of the overblown, exaggerated garbage I am reading on this thread.

For a bunch of guys who hate TSN so much, you complainers seem to watch it a lot.

Here's a tip for all you...next year when the tournament is on, turn the channel and watch football or maybe Dr. Phil or something, then go on the Dr. Phil message board and start trouble.

I don't have a problem with people critiquing TSN, but all this anti-Canadian stuff is just trolling disguised as "hockey talk". There is nothing hockey about 75% of the comments on this thread. You should all be ashamed of how you make your countries look by posting such anti-Canadian follishness.
 

Pentothal

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Well, Niklas Holmgren and Calle Johansson. I know they are with another tv-network but they are the best in the business and others should try and model their broadcasts after these two.

No way! Holmgren is hardly impartial anyway, just less entertaining (although his outbursts might be worth a giggle) and Johansson is just not cut out for tv at all IMO. Wikegård stays!
 

Corto

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Lol yeah that was hilarious.

Instead of being happy for the russians, Pierre, with his little sore loser sick puppy voice, says something like: "oh and they're passing right by the canadians".

I'm absolutely thrilled that Canada lost. Every single year, it's the same stuff. From the national media coverage, especially TSN, that treats these players like some kind of gods to the ever-lasting idea that somehow if Canada doesn't win, it's either "the biggest upset in wjc history", "they steal it from them", "Canada gets the gold medal ripped out of their hands"..

And by God, and I mean BY GOD people, if a coach from another team dares say that playing the czechs and russians was tougher than playing the canadians, HOLY MAMA GET THE MOUNTIES OUT....What??? How dare he??? You then get the reporters asking the canadian coach about the remarks and he has that stupid smirk all the long meaning like "well, he can say what he wants but we're so overly confident that hey!, he won't know what hit him". The TSN panel was the same, they were all kinda smiling at the remark and gave that general "we'll see cowboy, won't we!" look.

Bringing the whole panel to Buffalo and talking non stop about the same things: Canada's heart and soul attitude, gritty canadians, this player coming from a small town in Manitoba where the winters are tough and that he comes from a good hard working family, that player coming from a small town in Ontario where the people are so great and that that's where he got his positive attitude and drive. They also have this hard as stone idea that somehow grit and passion is a only a trait that Canadians have.

To be honest, it's sickening. Over the years, I've watched this tournament less and less, I've almost completely boycotted TSN during the event. For them, the world juniors has more importance (so coverage) than the Stanley Cup, the Olympics, the World Championships and the Winter Classic put together.

They keep making videos about the same things. Have you seen the TSN video zone? It's incredible. From the video portraits of each player, talking about how great they are, how fantastic the little village deep down in a saskatchewan valley they live in is, how great the people are, and then you get Pierre who drools over each and every player.

When I woke up this morning and saw the front page on TSN, as you could expect, I had big fat smile on my face.

I found this post to be a blunt, unmitigated view of the poster.
I also found it to be hilarious and well... mostly true.
 

MrKabukiman

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Lol yeah that was hilarious.

Instead of being happy for the russians, Pierre, with his little sore loser sick puppy voice, says something like: "oh and they're passing right by the canadians".

I'm absolutely thrilled that Canada lost. Every single year, it's the same stuff. From the national media coverage, especially TSN, that treats these players like some kind of gods to the ever-lasting idea that somehow if Canada doesn't win, it's either "the biggest upset in wjc history", "they steal it from them", "Canada gets the gold medal ripped out of their hands"..

And by God, and I mean BY GOD people, if a coach from another team dares say that playing the czechs and russians was tougher than playing the canadians, HOLY MAMA GET THE MOUNTIES OUT....What??? How dare he??? You then get the reporters asking the canadian coach about the remarks and he has that stupid smirk all the long meaning like "well, he can say what he wants but we're so overly confident that hey!, he won't know what hit him". The TSN panel was the same, they were all kinda smiling at the remark and gave that general "we'll see cowboy, won't we!" look.

Bringing the whole panel to Buffalo and talking non stop about the same things: Canada's heart and soul attitude, gritty canadians, this player coming from a small town in Manitoba where the winters are tough and that he comes from a good hard working family, that player coming from a small town in Ontario where the people are so great and that that's where he got his positive attitude and drive. They also have this hard as stone idea that somehow grit and passion is a only a trait that Canadians have.

To be honest, it's sickening. Over the years, I've watched this tournament less and less, I've almost completely boycotted TSN during the event. For them, the world juniors has more importance (so coverage) than the Stanley Cup, the Olympics, the World Championships and the Winter Classic put together.

They keep making videos about the same things. Have you seen the TSN video zone? It's incredible. From the video portraits of each player, talking about how great they are, how fantastic the little village deep down in a saskatchewan valley they live in is, how great the people are, and then you get Pierre who drools over each and every player.

Pretty much sums it all up right there. ^
 

Dosing

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Well, Niklas Holmgren and Calle Johansson. I know they are with another tv-network but they are the best in the business and others should try and model their broadcasts after these two.

Those guys are so colorless... wikegard got character
 

BrentZ10

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How many of you Swedes, Russians, and Americans get TSN in your cable package?

Exactly.
 

Zine

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What's wrong with Pierre having a Canadian bias when he commentates international games for TSN? Most announcers clearly cheer for the home country on national broadcasts, the whole point of commentators is to get you excited and into the game. I'm not a fan of Pierre personally, but the main thing he brings to the table is his emotional style, without it he wouldn't be nearly as successful as a commentator.


Nothing wrong with having a bias, and I personally like his 'outrageous' emotional style.
However, I dislike how the quality of Pierre's work fluctuates based on how Team Canada performs.
When Pierre isn't happy with a result, he ceases to be an entertaining or even informative broadcaster.
 

Hal 9000*

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McGuire and TSN are allowed to be bias, in fact they should be bias. They're not reffing the game, they are commenting about their team (team Canada). And, the viewers are canadian viewers. Do any of you haters really believe that the Russian PBP or color guy were fair and feeling bad for Canada? I'll bet nearly, if not all other nations wre bias against Canada. I don't know if any US network carried the game nationally, but I'd bet they were all for Russia.

What do you Canadians think that your team feels reading some of these posts and hearing that you were cheering against them?

Everyone gets on Don Cherry's case about standing by our team, and claiming that Canada is still the best at hockey. Reading some of these posts, it's pretty easy to understand why Don thinks that these young guys need a little encouragement.

No wonder Cherry calls you out for being left wing socialist pinkos!
 

CODER33

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Had the privilege to meet Pierre after the Canada-Finland exhibition game. Huge fan of his work and would much rather have Pierre announcing the games I watch than anyone else I can think of
 

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His overconfidence in Team Canada, his little remarks when Russia was celebrating and his general tone. Atleast Gord Miller was trying to sound excited when Russia scored their goals, Pierre was all quiet and montone when Russia was doing well. Pierre never really gave Russia any credit at all or maybe I missed his one comment on it. Why is he so biased for us Canadians when he himself is an American?

I really can't stand the guy, I don't think he should be doing these WJC games anymore.
The guy was in shock. Who's ever seen something like that before? To be honest I found Pierre really made that moment the way he was acting. He was in disbelief and so was everybody watching.
 

Sergei DRW

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I don't know why everybody is dissing Pierre.
He is doing a great job commenting the game and cheering for Team Canada.
The commentators I saw on Russian TV are also not impartial and heavily cheering for the Russian squad.
I don't see what the problem is.
The commentary is level-headed but you still cheer for the team you hold dear.

In this regard he is much better than Don Cherry who has a habit of openly insulting the Russians, the Swedes, the Czechs and all Europeans in general.
 

LeafsNation75

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Why is it that Canada is not allowed to have a commentator who obviously wants them to win, however it's ok for other countries? So let McGurie and TSN be biased for Team Canada because TSN is a Canadian network. When the American games were shown on the NHL Network in the United States you don't think those announcers wanted the Americans to win. Plus when the Olympics are on NBC is always pro USA showing them 99% of the time and no says anything about that.
 

canuck2010

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Just to stir the pot a bit. Came across a few stats and that's why Pierre is crying.

Matt Duchene 19 25 44

Jeff Skinner 18 22 40

Evander Kane 16 14 30

Taylor Hall 13 14 27
 

Yakushev72

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Just to stir the pot a bit. Came across a few stats and that's why Pierre is crying.

Matt Duchene 19 25 44

Jeff Skinner 18 22 40

Evander Kane 16 14 30

Taylor Hall 13 14 27

The greatest miracle of all would be if Canadian fans could change up their excuses from decade to decade, instead of dragging out the same old ones. Let's not give any credit to the team that won the Gold Medal on the ice - instead, let's haul out the tired old excuse about "we didn't have our best players." That is the twin sister to the excuse that's used in the WC every year, "We didn't have all our best players because some are still in the SC playoffs!" In effect, you are insulting the Canadian players who showed up on the ice by saying that they just weren't good enough to win the Gold Medal.

If Duchene, Skinner, Kane and Hall were there, does that mean that Canada automatically wins the WJC? Not at all. You're just speculating that they are going to go out there and dominate and score piles of goals, with nothing to base it on. How great was Kane in the 2009 WJC? Not that great, as I recall. If not for a bonehead play by Dmitriy Kulikov of the Florida Panthers with 5 seconds to go in regulation, Canada would have played for Bronze in 2009. Taylor Hall played in the Gold Medal game last year, but his presence wasn't enough to keep the USA from winning Gold! All this self-pity talk about "we didn't have our best players" is just a way to avoid facing the truth.
 

canuck2010

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I must have touched a nerve.

I'm giving the Russian team all the credit in the world. It was a great comeback they never quit. They believed in themselves and kept playing.

I'm merely pointing out why Pierre was crying in his beer.
 

canuck2010

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And if you check my earlier posts on this forum you will see that i said "you dance with the girl you brought".

Team Canada played with the players they brought to the tournament, they lost with those players, nothing more nothing less.
 

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