The Instigator
Tom Wilson - NHL All Star
- Feb 6, 2010
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I honestly am not sure how the expansion draft will work yet. One thing I do no for sure is if we do the intervals of 5 it will be a fixed order and not a snake order.
I was thinking of randomly selecting the order. Say Quebec gets the first pick. They make their 20 picks, then the next team makes their 20 picks. So it's like each team came into the league at a different time. I think I am liking this idea more.
Not really. Expansion teams will be deep, but every other team has 6 superstars, while we have none.
Just because they can keep 6 players won't mean they will all be superstars though. Heck, some teams still won't have any.
If the expansion teams pick carefully and take time to see which 6 players each team protected, they might be able to end up with a pretty good team.
But if we're saying I came first, when the 2nd expansion team drafts can they pick from mine.
Having teams pick anything other than 1 player at a time will make it incredibly unfair. It shouldn't be too hard with only 4 teams..
This is more decent, but there should be certain limitations on the type of players each team could pick. Even though there is a salary cap in place, the expansion teams could come out pretty stacked if they play their cards right. Also, each expansion team should only be able to take 1 player from a team throughout the entire draft. Not sure if this is what you meant in the original rules, but that makes it most fair for the the non-expansion teams as far as how many players they can lose.
As for other limitations, maybe something along the lines of these:
If a current NHL team blocks equal to or greater than two defenseman, only 1 defenseman can be picked from their current roster. If they block less than two defenseman, only 2 max d-men can be taken off their roster.
These kinds of limitations will help from the current NHL teams from completely being depleted of their depth in certain areas.
Also, although it may be very subjective to judge, the expansion teams should be limited as to what type of players they pick. For example, only 6 top 6 players, etc. I know these kinds of rules make it more complicated, but, IMO it makes it more fair because an expansion GM could totally own if they do it right.
Yeah, but look at some of the top teams who actually have depth.
Teams like the Red Wings, Canucks, Flyers will lose a lot of their depth if they get more than 4 players taken from them, even after blocking 6. At the very least, there should be limitations on how many players a team can lose, and how many players a team can lose at each position (meaning forward, defenseman, and goalie)
Well, look at some of the bottom teams. Florida for example:
Tomas Vokoun, David Booth, Stephen Weiss are better than mostly anybody that the expansion teams will get in the draft.
Even Toronto has Phil Kessel, Tomas Kaberle, Dion Phaneuf, Luke Schenn, that the expansion teams won't have.
I'm sorry I know my post above isn't exactly coherent because I was kinda brainstorming allowed.
My point in all this is that first I want to get everyone locked into the game. I then want to see who each team protects and who is left available. If there are numerous good-very good players available then a draft may be needed. If the pool players are judged to have equal talent for the most part then I may be able to go with the 5 interval method where one expansion team can only pick one player from each NHL team.
I will have a more definitive answer once I get the pool of players together on the same table. Although I do like everyone's enthusiasim right now.
I understand you want to get the last 8 GMs locked in. Not trying to rush you into a decision here, just brainstorming ideas.
Here is my proposal, the more I think about it. You have 4 teams in the expansion draft picking 20 players each (that's 80 total) from 30 teams. I think the most a team should be able to lose is 3 players (3 x 30 is 90, so it's more than enough). A team should not be able to lose more than 2 forwards, 1 dman, and 1 goalie (this seems most fair, since there will be double the forwards picked than d-man, but only 8 goalies picked).
What if there were specialty classes in the draft (#1 goalie, top 3 dman, 2 top 6 forward classes) and each team had one for the first round so it spreads out? The other 4 would be players not considered specialty picks.
I think this is a very good idea. Once the quota of each team is met then I would remove the rest of their players and return them back to their original team. Those 11 players would then be disbarred from the draft and ineligible to be picked.
I think this idea is better than my no more than 4 players from each team.
Thanks fly!
Also, thank you to all the rest who are really helping me brainstorm some ideas.
Can we have more protected players? Id like 8ish, or some teams will have ALOT of talent lost
And/or have a limit on how many players can be picked from one team. No more than 3 per team, as 4 teams, 20 per for 80 total. So that many guys from 30 teams means 3 or 2 player per team are picked up