GDT: NOPE: Nopes @ Blackhawks, 8:30 PM, NOPE+2

[mtnet]

Too late.

The (smarter) rats have already fled the ship in numbers the last few weeks.

I'd love to know how that charts out

This season really looks and feels like a last straw type deal, with or without last year's flash in the pan

 

[Bleedred]

Goaltending is the biggest need for the Devils at the moment. They have 0 average goalies on the roster right now.

 

[Davegarri]

The Senators are on pace to allow a record number of shots on goal in a season. Guy Boucher does not have the Senators playing a structured game.

Goaltending is the biggest need for the Devils at the moment. They have 0 average goalies on the roster right now.

I'd be interested to see a comparison of quality scoring chances between us and the Sens.

I still disagree the franchise biggest need is goaltender. I think Blackwood will be a solid netminder for us.

We have one decent defender on the NHL roster. Everyone is a bum and aside from Smith and maybe one or two other prospects, we have no future at the position either.

It is absolutely killing team this year and will continue to do so

 

[glenwo2]

Well HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, MISTER KETTLE!

 

[billingtons ghost]

Jimmy Hayes

Gibbons.

 

[Bleedred]

At this point I'm of the forcefeed it mentality too. With our luck he'll only get a win in the last game of the year that'll mean absolutely nothing for anyone, if he actually gets one at all.

I've been saying the same thing about it coming in the last game of the regular season or Cory's last game of the regular season.

It will be like Ruutu just about going the whole season in 15-16 without a point, until that last game when he finally got an assist in the season finale.

Only problem is that the season finale is in Sunrise this year. We never win there. Cory probably doesn't even have a win there with the Devils.

Actually he does. In the second game of the 14-15 season, which was the Panthers season opener.

That game might actually be the final game ever for both Luongo and Schneider before both are out of the league.

 

[billingtons ghost]

Can I just say that before the game I was laughing at the 'Greene drags Severson down' theory.

Not laughing anymore. I was dead wrong.

Not saying Severson is good because he still plays 2-on-1s like... well, I don't know what.

But tonight was all Andy Greene pinching disasters and terrible goaltending.

Our defense sucks, but yikes. What doesn't on this team.

 

[Davegarri]

Gibbons.

Grabner..

 

[billingtons ghost]

Grabner..

Maroon

 

[glenwo2]

Are the kids playing well? If the answer is yes Hynes stays. Once ray thinks we have a roster to truly compete an the kids are "developed" in his eyes, john is gone

Nico and Bratt (and Joey Anderson to a lesser extent) are playing solid.

This was the best game Bratt's played to date.

 

[Bleedred]

Can I just say that before the game I was laughing at the 'Greene drags Severson down' theory.

Not laughing anymore. I was dead wrong.

Not saying Severson is good because he still plays 2-on-1s like... well, I don't know what.

But tonight was all Andy Greene pinching disasters and terrible goaltending.

Our defense sucks, but yikes. What doesn't on this team.

What goals did you think were bad? Just curious, as you said terrible goaltending. I said goal 2 wasn't that good and wasn't met with a favorable reaction, despite at least two others agreeing.

Thought he could have had goal 2 and goal 4 was a rebound on a clean and unscreened point shot. He also played goal 5 like a guy that was nonchalant and expecting it to go in anyway. I don't think I'd nail him with a ''Stoppable goal'' on goals 4 or 5, I will admit it's a bit nitpicky, but just what I noticed.

 

[NJDevs26]

Can I just say that before the game I was laughing at the 'Greene drags Severson down' theory.

Not laughing anymore. I was dead wrong.

Not saying Severson is good because he still plays 2-on-1s like... well, I don't know what.

But tonight was all Andy Greene pinching disasters and terrible goaltending.

Our defense sucks, but yikes. What doesn't on this team.

The fact even vets like Greene are making these kind of stupid mistakes almost makes me more lax with the guys who do get the rap for stupidity like Severson and Wood...maybe if they were better coached with any other system they'd actually play smarter.

 

[billingtons ghost]

What goals did you think were bad? Just curious, as you said terrible goaltending.

Thought he could have had goal 2 and goal 4 was a rebound on a clean and unscreened point shot. He also played goal 5 like a guy that was nonchalant and expecting it to go in anyway.

I hated the rebound - that was really the only terrible one - but it is just the overarching feeling of doom ... every. single. game. It's that same metallic taste in your mouth that we got when he was defying reality somehow losing more games than Marty yet standing on his head.

I just don't get whether it is a ginger thing or what, but... he simply isn't the guy to inspire confidence between the pipes. If there was *anyone* in the building that thought when it was 2-2 that we had a chance of winning... that person wasn't familiar with the Devils and certainly not familar with Cory Schneider.

 

[Bleedred]

The fact even vets like Greene are making these kind of stupid mistakes almost makes me more lax with the guys who do get the rap for stupidity like Severson and Wood...maybe if they were better coached with any other system they'd actually play smarter.

I just think Greene is damn near the defense equivalent of Cory at this point. Probably not quite as bad, but getting there.

And he also started to look much worse late in the season last year too. Probably something to do with being older and just breaking down by this point in the year.

He's probably tired and I mean that quite literally. A guy in his current state of decline should probably only be playing 16 minutes a night and when he plays 21 minutes a night he gets to his minutes played ability quota much earlier in the year than he otherwise would have.

 

[billingtons ghost]

The fact even vets like Greene are making these kind of stupid mistakes almost makes me more lax with the guys who do get the rap for stupidity like Severson and Wood...maybe if they were better coached with any other system they'd actually play smarter.

Could be.
I love the way we play offense now... most nights.
I *hate* the way we play defense. All over the ice.

How many times am I going to have to watch Zajac bust his ass to be the 2nd guy back on an odd-man rush every game? He seems to always be there just in time to try to lift some guys stick and then scoop the puck out of the net. It seems like he might be the only one with a conscience on the whole squad.

I don't think Greene is 'making mistakes' per se -
I think he's a washed up vet, carrying a 750-ton C on his jersey, trying to do WAY too much to bring a crappy team a spark. Those pinches are the classic plays above your paygrade that a struggling 'leader' tries to make.

Best thing that could happen would be to deal him and get SOMETHING for him on his name alone.

 

[Bleedred]

I hated the rebound - that was really the only terrible one - but it is just the overarching feeling of doom ... every. single. game. It's that same metallic taste in your mouth that we got when he was defying reality somehow losing more games than Marty yet standing on his head.

I just don't get whether it is a ginger thing or what, but... he simply isn't the guy to inspire confidence between the pipes. If there was *anyone* in the building that thought when it was 2-2 that we had a chance of winning... that person wasn't familiar with the Devils and certainly not familar with Cory Schneider.

He looked like he whiffed on goal 2. Just beat him way too cleanly to the glove. Guy was right in his face on goal 1. Thought he had no chance on goal 3.

Like I said, I wouldn't ding him on goals 4 and 5 in my review, but the initial shot on goal 4 probably could have gone to his chest with how long, clean and clear sighted the shot was. He looked checked out by goal 5. I forgot if it was goal 4 or 5 that he looked angry on, like he had enough. It was one of the two 3rd period goals.

I just think he's finished. I don't think he's capable of playing at this level of pro play anymore. He might have one good game every once in a while.

 

[billingtons ghost]

I just think Greene is damn near the defense equivalent of Cory at this point. Probably not quite as bad, but getting there.

And he also started to look much worse late in the season last year too. Probably something to do with being older and just breaking down by this point in the year.

He's probably tired and I mean that quite literally. A guy in his current state of decline should probably only be playing 16 minutes a night and when he plays 21 minutes a night he gets to his minutes played ability quota much earlier in the year than he otherwise would have.

You're right -
I think he's trying to do too much.

I think you dump him as a sixth defenseman on a playoff team, and he'd be just fine.

As a #1 Dman on a terrible, terrible team that can't buy a win for an epically struggling goaltender, he's a frigging mess.

 

[billingtons ghost]

He looked like he whiffed on goal 2. Just beat him way too cleanly to the glove. Guy was right in his face on goal 1. Thought he had no chance on goal 3.

Like I said, I wouldn't ding him on goals 4 and 5 in my review, but the initial shot on goal 4 probably could have gone to his chest with how long, clean and clear sighted the shot was. He looked checked out by goal 5. I forgot if it was goal 4 or 5 that he looked angry on, like he had enough. It was one of the two 3rd period goals.

I just think he's finished. I don't think he's capable of playing at this level of pro play anymore. He might have one good game every once in a while.

It might really come to the point where we need to dump him in Bing just to get the smell off of this team.

 

[Bleedred]

You're right -
I think he's trying to do too much.

I think you dump him as a sixth defenseman on a playoff team, and he'd be just fine.

As a #1 Dman on a terrible, terrible team that can't buy a win for an epically struggling goaltender, he's a frigging mess.

I thought he played okay earlier in the year and by ''Played okay'' I mean that I'm grading him on a bell curve for what he is now.

I'd give him a C just based on his ability at this point in his career, which isn't a good player anymore. If I were giving that grade to him a few years back, it would have been a D- or F.

He's probably playing more since Vatanen got injured, which will definitely take his toll.

 

[Bleedred]

It might really come to the point where we need to dump him in Bing just to get the smell off of this team.

I think he's bought out after this year or the LTIR. All indications as of right now are that he doesn't wanna hit the LTIR.

It will be tough to swallow on the cap, but not as tough as if we depended on him to still play more than a handful of games here per year over the last three years or god forbid the last year or two of his deal. It would be one thing if he just plateaued in decline, but he's clearly not plateauing. By the time that hip heals, he'll be 34 years old and other parts of his game will have fallen apart. It's best to just cut bait. He'd be okay to keep around if we had the 75 game a year Marty playing here still and just used him for 7-10 starts and a couple relief appearances per year over his last 3 years, but that's not the situation we're in.

When he finally does get a win (I think he'll get at least one), I think we should shut him down, so he can go out on top. I realize that they probably won't shut him down after that, but it would be nice to give him a send off and that's that.

 

[Jets012]

Well we have a starter that's bottom 3 amongst starters this year goaltending wise. We have a backup who is bottom 2 amongst backups this year. Besides that, we're in good shape goaltending wise.

 

[Bleedred]

Well we have a starter that's bottom 3 amongst starters this year goaltending wise. We have a backup who is bottom 2 amongst backups this year. Besides that, we're in good shape goaltending wise.

Did you watch the game tho?! No goals were bad! It was all the fault of Severson and the defense! Cory is fine! It's only because we have the worst defense and roster in the history of hockey that he's an .865% goalie this year and in the last year+ and Hasek might be able to get to .897% on this team!

 

[Richer's Ghost]

There was a conversation about getting Hasek on here at one point... nobody wanted him. They were womping for Elliot instead. LULZ

 

[MadDevil]

At this point I'm of the forcefeed it mentality too. With our luck he'll only get a win in the last game of the year that'll mean absolutely nothing for anyone, if he actually gets one at all.

No, with our luck his win will result in us not getting Hughes.

 

[Camille the Eel]

How many times have we lost this year after leading 2 - 0? After leading 2 - 0 in the first period?