Non-Minnesota NHL News XV

[2Pair]

Panthers shedding salary for this summer...



Would be interesting to see what they do with Luongo if they go after Bob.

I would bet they could get Luongo to terminate his deal.

 

[Wabit]

I like it for both.

I'd have to see the return FLA gets for flipping those 2 before I can say I like it for them. I don't think Brassard+7th gets Zibby+2nd again.

Brassard has been traded 4 times now (5 if you count the paper trade in the 3 team deal).

 

[Wabit]

I would bet they could get Luongo to terminate his deal.

A buyout wouldn't do much with his low salary/high cap.

He falls into the recapture penalty too. I have no clue how that effects FLA or the Nuks caps with the retained salary.

 

[2Pair]

A buyout wouldn't do much with his low salary/high cap.

He falls into the recapture penalty too. I have no clue how that effects FLA or the Nuks caps with the retained salary.

Not buyout. Mutually terminated

 

[Wabit]

Not buyout. Mutually terminated

Still looking at a recapture hit.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I'd have to see the return FLA gets for flipping those 2 before I can say I like it for them. I don't think Brassard+7th gets Zibby+2nd again.

Brassard has been traded 4 times now (5 if you count the paper trade in the 3 team deal).

I wouldn't be all that worried about the return on Brassard. But Bjugstad isn't all that much, and if they think that it puts them a markedly better spot for Panarin/Bobrovsky, then its serving its purpose.

 

[2Pair]

Still looking at a recapture hit.

True. Didn't realize that even Florida was able to save that much cap space on his deal. I bet they could force him back to Vancouver if there were rumors of a retirement?

 

[Wabit]

I'm wouldn't be all that worried about the return on Brassard. But Bjugstad isn't all that much, and if they think that it puts them a markedly better spot for Panarin/Bobrovsky, then its serving its purpose.

If they get Bob and Panarin it's okay, but best laid plans and all if it doesn't work out. I guess they have a lot of faith in Borgstom?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If they get Bob and Panarin it's okay, but best laid plans and all if it doesn't work out. I guess they have a lot of faith in Borgstom?

Probably do, and I would too.

Also, having Barkov and Trochek in place as the top 2 centers helps a lot.

 

[Wabit]

True. Didn't realize that even Florida was able to save that much cap space on his deal. I bet they could force him back to Vancouver if there were rumors of a retirement?

Maybe they can LTIR him? He's old and has at least some injury history they could point to, maybe he develops a rash, i dunno?

 

[Wabit]

Probably do, and I would too.

Also, having Barkov and Trochek in place as the top 2 centers helps a lot.

Not disagreeing about the top-6. I'd be high on Borgstom if he was in MN, but wouldn't count on him anymore than I do JEE yet.

 

[2Pair]

Maybe they can LTIR him? He's old and has at least some injury history they could point to, maybe he develops a rash, i dunno?

If he wants to retire? Sure that's the easy way out. If he wants to keep playing though, and Florida isn't keen on that plan, they can send him to the AHL and I'm not sure Luongo would be willing to do that for $1.6M.

 

[Wild11MN]

Not buyout. Mutually terminated

Is there much precedent for that other than odd cases where guys don't want to play in the US any more?

 

[2Pair]

Is there much precedent for that other than odd cases where guys don't want to play in the US any more?

Older guys that don't want to go to the AHL

 

[Wild11MN]

Older guys that don't want to go to the AHL

True, now that I think about it, isn't that what happened to Quincey?

 

[Wabit]

If he wants to retire? Sure that's the easy way out. If he wants to keep playing though, and Florida isn't keen on that plan, they can send him to the AHL and I'm not sure Luongo would be willing to do that for $1.6M.

I think FLA would be better off keeping him for one more year and trade off Reimer instead. It would wipe out most of the recapture for FLA, but hit VAN hard. Not taking retained salary into account: it would put him Lu at $32m cap hit and $31.8m paid over the 6 full years in FLA.

 

[2Pair]

True, now that I think about it, isn't that what happened to Quincey?

I think quincey still got paid. They just told him to stay the F away from the team

 

[2Pair]

I think FLA would be better off keeping him for one more year and trade off Reimer instead. It would wipe out most of the recapture for FLA, but hit VAN hard. Not taking retained salary into account: it would put him Lu at $32m cap hit and $31.8m paid over the 6 full years in FLA.

Yeah, if Florida waits a year they will pretty much be clear of his contract. However, looking at how the recapture would turn out, I think that they can force Luongo back to Vancouver pretty much whenever they want.

 

[Wabit]

True, now that I think about it, isn't that what happened to Quincey?

I'd rather sit on my couch at home and make $1.25m for doing nothing rather than sit on my couch for free and do nothing. He carried a ~$200k cap hit by not being in the NHL, and he would have had to agree to terminate the deal. I'm sure MN would have jumped at it in a heartbeat. I don't think he could have gone to Europe and made up the lost money last year?

Did they even make him report to Iowa? He didn't play any games there.

 

[Wabit]

Yeah, if Florida waits a year they will pretty much be clear of his contract. However, looking at how the recapture would turn out, I think that they can force Luongo back to Vancouver pretty much whenever they want.

I wonder if Van is on his NTC list? He has some odd wording for his NTC too.

Per capfriendly:

CLAUSE DETAILS:
Clause remains active following subsequent trade. Modified NTC Details: Player can choose to supply a 5-team trade list following 2013-14, valid through July 15, 2014. If player does not submit trade list following 2013-14, team can request a five-team trade list following 2017-18 season, valid through Sept. 1, 2018. If player submitted a trade list following 2013-14 and was not moved, team loses right to request trade list in 2018

 

[2Pair]

I wonder if Van is on his NTC list? He has some odd wording for his NTC too.

Per capfriendly:

That would be amazing

 

[Wabit]

Perry is off of IR for the Ducks. That could be the boost they need to get WC spot.

 

[Wild11MN]

While it makes sense, I didn't realize a goalie could get credited with a shutout in a 1-0 shootout loss. Weird that you can get a shutout without a win. Happened to Greiss.

 

[Wabit]

While it makes sense, I didn't realize a goalie could get a shutout in a 1-0 shootout loss. Weird that you can get a shutout without a win. Happened to Greiss.

It doesn't happen often, but the SO doesn't count towards stats. I remember a few goalies were trying to get the 3v3 stats not to count either when it was first implemented.

 

[Wild11MN]

Matthews signs for 5 years, around $11.6M AAV.