Non-Minnesota NHL News XV

[Wild11MN]

Chicago lost in OT, so the Hawks and Devils are the other two teams without a win (but with points). The Wild are alone in 31st for the time being.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Chicago lost in OT, so the Hawks and Devils are the other two teams without a win (but with points). The Wild are alone in 31st for the time being.

And half of this board rejoices.

 

[Wabit]

And half of this board rejoices.

Pretty much anytime CHI loses (at any sport) is a reason to rejoice.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Pretty much anytime CHI loses (at any sport) is a reason to rejoice.

Not the half of the post I was referring to, but yes, I do rejoice when Chicago sees any type of failure.

 

[TaLoN]

And half of this board rejoices.

The other half is like.... well, not much we can do about it, better get a payoff if we have to suffer through this mess, because I don't want to do this again next year!

Hate the tank....suck organically... it happens sometimes, but turn it back around asap!

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

The other half is like.... well, not much we can do about it, better get a payoff if we have to suffer through this mess, because I don't want to do this again next year!

Hate the tank....suck organically... it happens sometimes, but turn it back around asap!

I get the idea that more people cheer for it, or at least look for reasons to after 3-4 games.

 

[TaLoN]

I get the idea that more people cheer for it, or at least look for reasons to after 3-4 games.

I agree, far too many people actually want to lose. I root for a win every game. Even when the team I'm rooting for is a lost cause. Wins are fun!

 

[NHL1674]

The other half is like.... well, not much we can do about it, better get a payoff if we have to suffer through this mess, because I don't want to do this again next year!

Hate the tank....suck organically... it happens sometimes, but turn it back around asap!

I'm borrowing this.

 

[TaLoN]

I'm borrowing this.

All it took was the Fenton trainwreck.

 

[thestonedkoala]

All it took was the Fenton trainwreck.

I wouldn't give all the credit to Fenton. He was just the captain when the ship finally hit an iceberg that Risebrough and Fletcher decided to steer toward.

 

[Wild11MN]

 

[BagHead]

I wouldn't give all the credit to Fenton. He was just the captain when the ship finally hit an iceberg that Risebrough and Fletcher decided to steer toward.

The captain that decided to trade the rudder for another steam engine.

 

[DANOZ28]

pens hornquist threw a questionable hit on McKinnon last night i thought he was also too aggressive with wild players.

 

[57special]

That's the sort of player he is.

 

[thestonedkoala]

The captain that decided to trade the rudder for another steam engine.

Broken rudder that was painted over a bunch of times.

 

[BagHead]

Point is, trading Granlund, Nino and Coyle all was always going to make the team worse. That would be fine if he'd gotten great futures for them, but he got mediocre futures for them, so now both the present and future don't look great. He really embraced making us worse, even while making sure we weren't rebuilding toward anything, and then signed two 30+ vets to really screw with things (Staal and Zuccerello). To your point, he inherited some problems and those problems weren't his fault, but then he made those exact problems even worse and for that he does deserve plenty of blame.

 

[TaLoN]

Point is, trading Granlund, Nino and Coyle all was always going to make the team worse. That would be fine if he'd gotten great futures for them, but he got mediocre futures for them, so now both the present and future don't look great. He really embraced making us worse, even while making sure we weren't rebuilding toward anything, and then signed two 30+ vets to really screw with things (Staal and Zuccerello). To your point, he inherited some problems and those problems weren't his fault, but then he made those exact problems even worse and for that he does deserve plenty of blame.

In other words, we had assets to deal with those problems if they were used wisely. They were not. The team had issues to address, but things weren't dire by any means. Instead of addressing the issues, they were magnified to epic proportions.

 

[NHL1674]

I was curious how the others were doing...

Coyle....6GP....1 assist....-1
Nino.....8GP....3 assists...-1
Granny....6GP....2 goals...2 assists....+1

 

[Bazeek]

I was curious how the others were doing...

Coyle....6GP....1 assist....-1
Nino.....8GP....3 assists...-1
Granny....6GP....2 goals...2 assists....+1

Nino: 31 point pace (PDO of 93.9)
Rask: 55 point pace (PDO of 108.9)

See? We win!

 

[57special]

Almost everyone on BOS is very happy with Coyle...at least till he missed his shootout attempt tonight. Pastrnak is 3 for 18 lifetime in SO's...how does that happen?

 

[TaLoN]

Almost everyone on BOS is very happy with Coyle...at least till he missed his shootout attempt tonight. Pastrnak is 3 for 18 lifetime in SO's...how does that happen?

Gaborik was notoriously bad at shootouts as well. It's a completely different situation when there is no defender coming for you - players don't always handle that well. It's a completely different type of shooting pressure that some high skill guys aren't used to.

 

[NHL1674]

Gaborik was notoriously bad at shootouts as well. It's a completely different situation when there is no defender coming for you - players don't always handle that well. It's a completely different type of shooting pressure that some high skill guys aren't used to.

We use to joke that they needed to have another player chasing Gabby during the shootout to fool him into treating it as a breakaway.

 

[TaLoN]

We use to joke that they needed to have another player chasing Gabby during the shootout to fool him into treating it as a breakaway.

I remember those days well!

 

[57special]

Gretzky was also not very good on penalty shots

 

[thestonedkoala]

The team had issues to address, but things weren't dire by any means. Instead of addressing the issues, they were magnified to epic proportions.

I think they were dire; they had no blue chip prospects, the team had a lot of locker room issues, they couldn't develop any type of reliable goal scoring forward...it looked great until you started digging.