Value of: Nolan Patrick

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I disgaree but even if thats true, the injuries would lower his value so much that he wouldn't be close to those guys.
Yeah obviously now he isn’t, but he said even with zero injury history. Tell me what exactly has Kakko done to prove he is the better player than Patrick even as it is?
 
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Starat327

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If you srent offering the value you'd offer for a young top 6c (and to be clear: you shouldn't), there's no deal to be made.

Patrick has no value until he proves he can play. Flyers can afford to wait to see if he becomes that top 6C, or let him bust out if that's the case.
 

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Flyers have no reason to trade him unless it's an overpay for what he has proven AND for someone with upside too.

They also have NO REASON at all to offer him anything but the minimum that the need to as he is a RFA, missed a whole year, and has no leverage. AND no assurance that he will play next year.

Your second statement contradicts your first. If the Flyers have no reason to offer anything but the minimum, why should another team pay the opposite? LMAO. His value is low, which means the Flyers aren't getting anything significant. He could be traded for another young player struggling, ala:

Nolan Patrick for Jesse Puljujarvi
 

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Your second statement contradicts your first. If the Flyers have no reason to offer anything but the minimum, why should another team pay the opposite? LMAO. His value is low, which means the Flyers aren't getting anything significant. He could be traded for another young player struggling, ala:

Nolan Patrick for Jesse Puljujarvi
Um...no they don't considering one is trade value and the other is contract negotiations.

Patrick's value is low due to migraines, not inability to be an NHL player.

Pulj played at a 23 point pace as a rook, followed it with a 25 point pace, then a 16 point pace.
Patrick played at a 34 point pace and followed it with a 35 point pace, then migraines.

Why would the Flyers trade him for a worse player that couldn't play in the top 9?

Also, I, and other Flyers fans have said that no team should offer what the Flyers would want for him due to the uncertainly. Just like the Flyers would be dumb to trade him for pennies on the dollar. Rather keep him and not recover than trade him for a crap return and have Nolan recover for another team.

It's really a polite way of saying, "f*** off, we are not looking to trade Nolan".

:D
 

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Sens would take a flyer on him, pun intended. Would Logan Brown be of interest?
 

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Gotta figure he has more value to the Flyers, to see if the kid can get healthy and eventually make an impact, than he would in a trade. Unless of course the Flyers know something the public does not. Just wish him the best.
 

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Couts shouldve won Selke back to back 17-18 and 18-19. He had a good year this season but was even better prior two. Gotta be smart w/ next contract imho

Voracek is horrific. He is the 7th highest paid RW in the league and ranks 426th in the league in cost per point. This past season he ranked 22nd in IPP among RIGHT WINGS and - since the start of his Hextall contract - he's 31st in IPP among RIGHT WINGS. He's below 50th forward in ES points, PPG, and pretty much any stat you want. The dude is trash. He collects assist against garbage teams or on the powerplay. And he does this as the 7th highest paid RW in the entire league. HORRIBLE contract.

JVR is literally a negative asset on this team as he's interfering with Farabee, Frost, Konecny, Patrick, and Lindblom's ice time. Get him OUT.

Laughton played CENTER this PLAYOFFS way ABOVE expectations. He is a better winger though

Patrick is gonna be the 2c we've needed and even if he doesn't pan out AT ALL (which is not the case) we still have Frost as well as Rubstov, Voroboyv, and O'Brien.

If you want Patrick you need to come to the table with Byfield, Kakko, Lafrenierre, Holtz, or something similar. Otherwise go back to playing EA Sports

Always fun to tune into week old threads to see the 75 year old piss on Eddie shore, piss on old time hockey type fans.

Those darn secondary assists. So sneaky.

And let's not forget, taking a year off of hockey will increase your value, kids. Especially if its via injuries.
 

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Your second statement contradicts your first. If the Flyers have no reason to offer anything but the minimum, why should another team pay the opposite? LMAO. His value is low, which means the Flyers aren't getting anything significant. He could be traded for another young player struggling, ala:

Nolan Patrick for Jesse Puljujarvi

No.

Patrick was successful in his first 2 years and was averaging 0.5PPG (decent 2C numbers) once he got into his routine (mid season to end in BOTH rookie and sophmore years). So Patrick has REAL VALUE.

Puljuvarvi was benched, demoted in lines, healthy scratched and became such a head case that he went to SHL to get his mind right.

Oilers have to add if they want Patrick. Pujujarvi straight up falls short.
 

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Always fun to tune into week old threads to see the 75 year old piss on Eddie shore, piss on old time hockey type fans.

Those darn secondary assists. So sneaky.

And let's not forget, taking a year off of hockey will increase your value, kids. Especially if its via injuries.

You waited a week. I'll wait a year but your account will banned or inactive this time next year...when Flyers fans are upset their 3C is earning $7.14m because Patrick is scoring 47-51 points while splitting 3c-2c time.
 

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You waited a week. I'll wait a year but your account will banned or inactive this time next year...when Flyers fans are upset their 3C is earning $7.14m because Patrick is scoring 47-51 points while splitting 3c-2c time.

Just out of curiosity, why am I going to suddenly be banned on my 6 year anniversary of activity?

Also pretty sure flyers fans already know what Hayes contract will feel like in a few years. They will be prepared for it by then.
 

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To Philly: #95, White

To Ottawa: Patrick



Philly get a young player with some upside who's signed long term to play in their middle 6

Ottawa get a young player who would probably benefit from playing pressure-free hockey for a rebuilding team
 

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No.

Patrick was successful in his first 2 years and was averaging 0.5PPG (decent 2C numbers) once he got into his routine (mid season to end in BOTH rookie and sophmore years). So Patrick has REAL VALUE.

Puljuvarvi was benched, demoted in lines, healthy scratched and became such a head case that he went to SHL to get his mind right.

Oilers have to add if they want Patrick. Pujujarvi straight up falls short.
61 points in 145 career games isn’t really that close to .5 ppg.

or are you just cherry picking the times he really got going?
 

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To Philly: #95, White

To Ottawa: Patrick



Philly get a young player with some upside who's signed long term to play in their middle 6

Ottawa get a young player who would probably benefit from playing pressure-free hockey for a rebuilding team
White makes 4.75 million. Flyers don't need to take that on when they have:

Giroux Couts Jake
Lindblom Hayes Konecny
JVR Frost Farabee

Patrick has no issue playing in pressure hockey. He is dealing with migraines. That does not change if traded to Ottawa.

Flyers will keep Patrick and hope the migraines can get under control.
 

hmc1987

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61 points in 145 career games isn’t really that close to .5 ppg.

or are you just cherry picking the times he really got going?


IIRC both his seasons were strong first and last 20 games, at 0.5 PPG, with unimpressive play in between.

Not surprising for a 19 and 20 year old whose not even outgrown puberty
 

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To Philly: #95, White

To Ottawa: Patrick



Philly get a young player with some upside who's signed long term to play in their middle 6

Ottawa get a young player who would probably benefit from playing pressure-free hockey for a rebuilding team

What? White is a Mid 6 winger at his best. Patrick is more cost controlled and has higher upside.

Also, if you expect Philly to add there's no point in the trade. Literally selling low on Patrick for someone who would BATTLE for 3C with Frost/Rubstov. And if that person LOSES the battle he becomes a bad contract for another 4-5 years.

Easy pass.

If you want to talk Logan Brown for NP maybe discussion has to be had.

NP should have higher upside than LB, but LBs playstyle will be good for 3C with some 2C time. And NP is still a mystery with his chronic condition so I don't see Ottawa offering LB for NP 1 for 1
 

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He's probably a really great target for a rfa contract. The flyers are tight to the cap and given his struggle with migraines shouldn't offer him too much but a rebuilding team could probably take the chance of putting him on it and get a potential 1 c for a serious discount
 

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IIRC both his seasons were strong first and last 20 games, at 0.5 PPG, with unimpressive play in between.

Not surprising for a 19 and 20 year old whose not even outgrown puberty
He really had 2 very odd clips during each season he played and both around mid January.

2018-19: Oct-Jan 13th: 11 points in 38 games.....a 24 point pace
2018-19: Jan 14th-April: 20 points in 34 games.....a 48 point pace

2017-18 Oct-Jan 24th: 9 points in 40 games....a 18 point pace
2017-18 Jan 25th-April: 21 points in 33 games....a 52 point pace

The 2nd half of both season shows that he does have the upside if he can play a whole season like that. Maybe this season, since it likely starts in Jan, he is able to play and plays like he has in years past from Jan-April.

But in the end, he needs to get his migraines under control to have an NHL career, regardless how good it's going to be.
 

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He's probably a really great target for a rfa contract. The flyers are tight to the cap and given his struggle with migraines shouldn't offer him too much but a rebuilding team could probably take the chance of putting him on it and get a potential 1 c for a serious discount

No team is going to do that for a guy who hasn't played since March 2019.
 

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He's probably a really great target for a rfa contract. The flyers are tight to the cap and given his struggle with migraines shouldn't offer him too much but a rebuilding team could probably take the chance of putting him on it and get a potential 1 c for a serious discount

Patrick is actually not eligible to be offer sheeted due to not enough games played(lucky for us?). He is deemed a 10.2(c) free agent.

As long as the Flyers offer him a qualifying offer, and we will, Patrick has no leverage.
 
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Patrick has no issue playing in pressure hockey. He is dealing with migraines. That does not change if traded to Ottawa.

Flyers will keep Patrick and hope the migraines can get under control.
This. A trigger for migraines can be flying. Or changes in the weather. And having migraines can be with you until your 60's (I know). The key for this young man is finding a way to control them through diet, regular sleep patterns, and medication.
 

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