Prospect Info: Noah Juulsen Part II

[Habnot]

I think we sometimes lose perspective. I don't understand outrage that as fans- we are owed medical information on private citizens - who by the way have the same right to privacy that you and I enjoy.

When a player is out - he's out. Why does it matter to know the detail? How is that helpful? We know he is out indefinitely, he's not practicing not close to coming back. When the situation changes, I am sure the team will update the media/fans.

Unless you see the situation as an opening to complain about team, management, drafting, etc...

 

[Tyson]

Noah Juulsen espère revenir au jeu cette saison | Richard Labbé | Hockey

Closest to an update from his agent.

 

[1909]

Noah Juulsen espère revenir au jeu cette saison | Richard Labbé | Hockey

Closest to an update from his agent.

That says it all. Needs to see more specialists. Might need surgery to his left eye. Lack of peripheral vision. Might come back this year. Keep good spirit despite everything. Came back too early after being hit twice in the face Dec.19th. That seems to have been his own decision, not the club's.

Kind of weird the info comes from his agent and not from the organisation.

 

[Runner77]

Noah Juulsen espère revenir au jeu cette saison | Richard Labbé | Hockey

Closest to an update from his agent.

That's an excellent update and offeers the type of information the Habs could have easily provided without compromising the player or or the organization. And it also has the merit of putting Ron Fournier's take in proper context.

What's also significant is that Juulsen's agent is not completely dismissing that Juulsen's career may be at risk. The caveat is that right now, it's "very premature" to say that his career is compromised.

Juulsen saying he's hoping to return to play is just the player having a positive outlook, which is a good thing. However, his agent adds in the same breath, that the injury is "very complex" (which to me suggests that Juulsen doesn't have a definitive outcome one way or the other).

We're also learning that when Juulsen returned to play in December, he had issues with his peripheral vision. This is continuing to plague him right now.

We're finding out through Mike Reilly, that Juulsen's eye was swollen and that Juulsen was wary about increasing his cardiac rate on account of it.

Juulsen's agent adds that progress has been made but doesn't qualify by how much.

There is also further confirmation that Juulsen's issues are strictly related to his left eye (no concussion). The piece also says that is not known right now if Juulsen requires an operation or not.

Juulsen has already seen several specialists in respect of an injury to his left eye. He's seeing more doctors in the next few days.

Based on all of the above, if one were to try and connect the dots, the good news is that progress has been made and the player has a positive outlook. On the more tenuous side, his progress is not likely significant as the need for an operation has not been ruled out. Also not completely ruled out is that Juulsen's injury may pose a risk to his career, only that it is very premature to say so right now, assuming the agent's account in this regard, is accurate.

 

[sheed36]

 

[Runner77]

I guess Juulsen's agent forced their hand. They seem to have a more positive prognosis than suggested by the LaPresse piece, however it's not as clear as to why. If it's based on information that wasn't shared in the LaPresse article, then all the better.

 

[Paddyjack]

All this reminds me a bit of when there were lots of talk about Crosby when Mario Tremblay said that his career may be compromised. Flash forward many years after.... well....

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I think we sometimes lose perspective. I don't understand outrage that as fans- we are owed medical information on private citizens - who by the way have the same right to privacy that you and I enjoy.

When a player is out - he's out. Why does it matter to know the detail? How is that helpful? We know he is out indefinitely, he's not practicing not close to coming back. When the situation changes, I am sure the team will update the media/fans.

Unless you see the situation as an opening to complain about team, management, drafting, etc...

So true.

That’s also the thing with injuries related to vision, they are very hard to give an outlook on and everyone is just taking the safe route right now in regards to it and rightfully so.

His career could very well be at risk, as it could also not be at risk. No one wants to confirm or deny something like that at this stage when there’s still lots of time to try to rehab the injury

 

[Runner77]

So true.

That’s also the thing with injuries related to vision, they are very hard to give an outlook on and everyone is just taking the safe route right now in regards to it and rightfully so.

His career could very well be at risk, as it could also not be at risk. No one wants to confirm or deny something like that at this stage when there’s still lots of time to try to rehab the injury

Juulsen is still seeing specialists and there may still be an operation. I'd rather not count on him this year, let him take the time he needs and hopefully he'll come out of this OK.

From a larger perspective, it raises the issue of how how adequate is the eye protection that NHLers use:

In the opening minutes, Noah Juulsen had a shot hit him in the visor. He was left with a mark on his cheek, but was able to return to the game.
Unfortunately, later in the period, a puck ramped up his stick and hit him in the same spot once again. This time it opened up a gash, forcing him to the dressing room.

Juulsen was wearing a visor at the time of his incidents. No one wears full face protection on a full time basis in the NHL. Maybe the incidents ought to cause a review of visor designs currently available.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Juulsen is still seeing specialists and there may still be an operation. I'd rather not count on him this year and hope that he's going to be OK, let him take the time he needs and hopefully he'll come out of this OK.

From a larger perspective, it raises the issue of how how adequate is the eye protection that NHLers use:

In the opening minutes, Noah Juulsen had a shot hit him in the visor. He was left with a mark on his cheek, but was able to return to the game.
Unfortunately, later in the period, a puck ramped up his stick and hit him in the same spot once again. This time it opened up a gash, forcing him to the dressing room.

Juulsen was wearing a visor at the time of his incidents. No one wears full face protection on a full time basis in the NHL. Maybe the incidents ought to cause a review of visor designs currently available.

I couldn’t agree more!

If I played in the NHL I’d have a full face visor or a cage.. it’s not about being tough. There’s nothing tough about taking a stick to the eyeball or a puck to an orbital bone, it’s just unnecessary and stupid.

It’s a very rare occurrence but all it takes is one time...

 

[L4br3cqu3]

That says it all. Needs to see more specialists. Might need surgery to his left eye. Lack of peripheral vision. Might come back this year. Keep good spirit despite everything. Came back too early after being hit twice in the face Dec.19th. That seems to have been his own decision, not the club's.

Kind of weird the info comes from his agent and not from the organisation.

 

[RandR]

I have no problem with how the Habs have handled Juulsen's situation to media and fans. That La Presse article makes it obvious that there are more questions than answers about his situation. The fact that Juulsen has already seen several doctors and will see multiple more doctors indicates that nobody on this planet right now knows how this will all end; nobody even knows yet whether any kind of surgery will be required.

Fingers crossed he makes enough of a recovery to at least continue his hockey career. One thing that is fundamentally different in his situation compared to Berard's was that Berard was already a seasoned NHL player and thus was able to adapt when he had his eye injury. Unfortunately, Juulsen is still learning the NHL game and thus I would imagine it would be much more of a challenge for him to adapt if the loss of some of the peripheral vision in one of his eyes is permanent.

 

[sandviper]

Juulsen is still seeing specialists and there may still be an operation. I'd rather not count on him this year and hope that he's going to be OK, let him take the time he needs and hopefully he'll come out of this OK.

From a larger perspective, it raises the issue of how how adequate is the eye protection that NHLers use:

In the opening minutes, Noah Juulsen had a shot hit him in the visor. He was left with a mark on his cheek, but was able to return to the game.
Unfortunately, later in the period, a puck ramped up his stick and hit him in the same spot once again. This time it opened up a gash, forcing him to the dressing room.

Juulsen was wearing a visor at the time of his incidents. No one wears full face protection on a full time basis in the NHL. Maybe the incidents ought to cause a review of visor designs currently available.

I’ve always noticed PK wears a really big visor. Perhaps more players, particularly defencemen, wear larger visors. It won’t eliminate the risk, but I’d expect it to reduce.

 

[Runner77]

I couldn’t agree more!

If I played in the NHL I’d have a full face visor or a cage.. it’s not about being tough. There’s nothing tough about taking a stick to the eyeball or a puck to an orbital bone, it’s just unnecessary and stupid.

It’s a very rare occurrence but all it takes is one time...

The physics of it provide ample support for greater protection. Both pucks and sticks can travel much faster than the eye has time to react to them.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The physics of it provide ample support for greater protection. Both pucks and sticks can travel much faster than the eye has time to react to them.

Nobody needs to see the puck more and as importantly as the goalie. If the cage is fine for them....

 

[Want My Dach x 77]

This sucks a lot I had high hopes for him

 

[Habs Icing]

Why haven't the fans heard that same information? Glad you got through to a source, but all we keep getting is, "Press 1 for 'Upper Body Injury'", followed by, "Your loyalty is important to us. Please stay online and a press release will be with you shortly."

Someone posted a tweet stating exactly that. Juulsen needed rest.

 

[Habs Icing]

<calming jazz instrumental music>

You call muzak jazz?

 

[Habs Icing]

This video just in, as Lshap tries to get by the Habs front office staff for answers.

Well that video is gonna come as a surprise to Ms. Lshap.

 

[cphabs]

I couldn’t agree more!

If I played in the NHL I’d have a full face visor or a cage.. it’s not about being tough. There’s nothing tough about taking a stick to the eyeball or a puck to an orbital bone, it’s just unnecessary and stupid.

It’s a very rare occurrence but all it takes is one time...

Agreed! I would like to add that most of our species sensory organs/abilities are located in one spot. I think that playing ice hockey with football helmets is a very bad idea. Why? It is played at 20 plus MPH on average. Big bobble headed players skating around with football like helmets will be even worse IMO.
On a side note, I am sure that any competitor, sports or military, would want the least restrictive device protecting his/her head while knowing the risks. Why? It increases performance.

 

[Runner77]

Why haven't the fans heard that same information? Glad you got through to a source, but all we keep getting is, "Press 1 for 'Upper Body Injury'", followed by, "Your loyalty is important to us. Please stay online and a press release will be with you shortly."

Mr. @Lshap ? What number do I press for you to update that avatar of yours to a better quality image?

Better yet, if I press 5, will you produce a high definition version in a reply post?

I need it for my future spoofs.

 

[Habs]

Well that video is gonna come as a surprise to Ms. Lshap.

Right?

 

[Rapala]

I couldn’t agree more!

If I played in the NHL I’d have a full face visor or a cage.. it’s not about being tough. There’s nothing tough about taking a stick to the eyeball or a puck to an orbital bone, it’s just unnecessary and stupid.

It’s a very rare occurrence but all it takes is one time...

I often thought goggles similar to what some basketball players were using would provide better protection at least to the eye socket itself. In Juulsen's case the fracture, pinched nerve and or damaged optic nerve was not necessarily due to a socket injury but more likely the orbital bones based on where he was struck so yeah full face would be the only protection against that.

 

[Runner77]

I often thought goggles similar to what some basketball players were using would provide better protection at least to the eye socket itself. In Juulsen's case the fracture, pinched nerve and or damaged optic nerve was not necessarily due to a socket injury but more likely the orbital bones based on where he was struck so yeah full face would be the only protection against that.

They should have shields like those of a motor bike, if they can find a way to prevent them from fogging up. Would look better than a cage, provide more visibility.

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

Reminiscent of Koivu who after receiving a stick on the eye got eye surgery. He apparently lost some of his amount peripheral vision, but it didn't seem to affect his play all that much. Considering Berard could play with nearly one eye, obviously it greatly affected his career, but with 100% in one eye and if Juulsen could keep like 80% in the other it should be manageable. Manny Malhotra came back from a supposedly career ending eye injury as well. I am hopeful he will be relatively fine given time.