Prospect Info: Noah Juulsen Part II

WhiskeySeven* · Nov 7, 2018

Mrb1p said:
He's bad at playmaking ? He makes the safe plays, thats for sure, but hella worse players have carved a career in the NHL. His shot is always a threat, and he's a force on the offensive blueline because of his lateral mobility.

I think you're getting confused here, you think he's a finished product, you think he will not get better, which is weird, since we all know that defenders take longer to develop. Mete and him are far from finished products, even though theyre in the NHL.

He's not producing points. I know he's not a finished product but he's not producing points and it seems to me that he's going to suffer from stunted development.

The Great Weal · Nov 7, 2018

You don't need points to be a top 4 dman. Hamonic and Larsson are both top 4 dmen but don't produce much. I can see Juulsen becoming that kind of dman.

Mrb1p · Nov 7, 2018

Hemlock77 said:
He's not producing points. I know he's not a finished product but he's not producing points and it seems to me that he's going to suffer from stunted development.

He's on pace for 19 ES points, thats two less than Petry's best year.

covfefe · Nov 7, 2018

Hemlock77 said:
He's not producing points. I know he's not a finished product but he's not producing points and it seems to me that he's going to suffer from stunted development.

He's not really a point-producing player. I've been watching him since his first year in Everett and that's always been evident.

If he can get more than ~30 points in a season, and play a physical, two-way game, he'll be a very valuable player for us. Kind of like a Hjalmarsson type - but hopefully with a bit more offense.

montreal · Nov 7, 2018

The Great Schlemko said:
You don't need points to be a top 4 dman. Hamonic and Larsson are both top 4 dmen but don't produce much. I can see Juulsen becoming that kind of dman.

on a contending team I think you do, since top means likely quality ice time. look at vegas, they had 4 guys with over 23 pts last year, that's what I'd like to see something in that range.

yianik · Nov 7, 2018

By top 4 D man he is looking like a no.4 D man, which is different from a no. 3 D man , value is a chunk less, but still valuable. Hamonic is a good example of a no.4 , and yeah , Larsson, the guy Chia traded for an elite winger is another. Call me crazy, but the value assigned to Hamonic is closer to the mark in terms of value. Chia paid for a top pair D man.

So if Juulsen can develop into a strong defensive player and get that 15 points or so then he is a no.4 . If he can break into that 25-30 point area, then he can fill the no.3 slot. See what time does.

The Great Weal · Nov 7, 2018

montreal said:
on a contending team I think you do, since top means likely quality ice time. look at vegas, they had 4 guys with over 23 pts last year, that's what I'd like to see something in that range.

What about Dumoulin? Top 4 dman that was a huge part why the pens won the cup without Letang. Of course having two generational centers help, but he was a huge part of their team.

montreal · Nov 7, 2018

The Great Schlemko said:
What about Dumoulin? Top 4 dman that was a huge part why the pens won the cup without Letang. Of course having two generational centers help, but he was a huge part of their team.

sure, give me Crosby and Malkin and Kessel, a good coach and I'll be content with having a top 4 D that doesn't put up more then 15 pts. Of course it depends on the rest of the makeup of our team, how well do others on our blueline produce? As much as I like Brook, I don't see us having the big point producers like we did with Markov/Subban down the road unless Weber finds the fountain of youth and we give up Mete so we can protect Weber/Petry/Juulsen in the expansion draft.

The Great Weal · Nov 7, 2018

montreal said:
sure, give me Crosby and Malkin and Kessel, a good coach and I'll be content with having a top 4 D that doesn't put up more then 15 pts. Of course it depends on the rest of the makeup of our team, how well do others on our blueline produce? As much as I like Brook, I don't see us having the big point producers like we did with Markov/Subban down the road unless Weber finds the fountain of youth and we give up Mete so we can protect Weber/Petry/Juulsen in the expansion draft.

Dumoulin was still a huge part of that cup run. I 100% agree that we still need find some offensive dmen in the draft. We only have Brook right now and who knows if he can produce in the nhl.

Mrb1p · Nov 7, 2018

montreal said:
on a contending team I think you do, since top means likely quality ice time. look at vegas, they had 4 guys with over 23 pts last year, that's what I'd like to see something in that range.

Mattias Ekholm, Hjalmarsson, Stralman, Petry, Braun, Ference/Seidenberg, Muzzin, etc, are all players that played top four on succesful teams that project around 20ish points a year. Which is the pace Juulsen has right now...

montreal · Nov 7, 2018

Mrb1p said:
Mattias Ekholm, Hjalmarsson, Stralman, Petry, Braun, Ference/Seidenberg, Muzzin, etc, are all players that played top four on succesful teams that project around 20ish points a year. Which is the pace Juulsen has right now...

We've seen from past teams when we had Markov/Subban putting up big numbers and then next had 15 pts. Juulsen it's too early to say, 2 games ago he was on pace for 7 or 8 pts. The guy is a 1st round pick so he should be putting up 20+ pts and I think he can but if he doesn't that will just put more pressure on whoever we have on the top pairing.

DangerDave · Nov 7, 2018

Well a 20 point season with no PP time isn't bad at all for a physical defense first guy like Juulsen. He's going to get better as well. I think he's looking great overall so far.

Legend123 · Nov 7, 2018

Mrb1p said:
He's on pace for 19 ES points, thats two less than Petry's best year.

????? Petry didnt score 19 ES points last year? Color me surprised if not.

yianik · Nov 7, 2018

Legend123 said:
????? Petry didnt score 19 ES points last year? Color me surprised if not.

He did, 6 goals and 13 assists at ES. Year before it was 21 ES points, which is his career high.

GHJimmy · Nov 7, 2018

The Great Schlemko said:
Dumoulin was still a huge part of that cup run. I 100% agree that we still need find some offensive dmen in the draft. We only have Brook right now and who knows if he can produce in the nhl.

Brook? You should also include Fleury I think he's way ahead of Brook with offensive, Fleury takes shots at points and he hits the net more often than Petry does

Tyson · Nov 18, 2018

Really starting to appreciate this kid’s game. For a player with 39 NHL games he plays like a seasoned vet. Nice late first round pick!

Deebs · Nov 20, 2018

Braun · Nov 20, 2018

Juulsen is out indefinitely with a facial fracture

Tyson · Nov 20, 2018

Damn this sucks

Habs · Nov 20, 2018

Braun said:
Juulsen is out indefinitely with a facial fracture

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Rapala · Nov 20, 2018

Tyson said:
Damn this sucks

I was fairly happy with his progression. But hey it means more of Schlump, Benn, Mete, and Ouellet all playing their wrong side. :help:

Deebs · Nov 20, 2018

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Adam Michaels · Nov 20, 2018

According to CapFriendly, Juulsen and Scherbak have been placed on IR.

Habs · Nov 20, 2018

Adam Michaels said:
According to CapFriendly, Juulsen and Scherbak have been placed on IR.

How long will Scherbak take to heal from hurt feelings?

Adam Michaels · Nov 20, 2018

Habs said:
How long will Scherbak take to heal from hurt feelings?

Out indefinitely. :laugh:

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