Player Discussion Noah Hanifin

[TheHudlinator]

Having markstrom over Talbot is massive too

 

[Sparky93]

Having markstrom over Talbot is massive too

Talbot has a .920 so far this season

 

[TheHudlinator]

Talbot has a .920 so far this season

Basically the same as last year but that doesn’t change the fact that Markstrom is an upgrade this year over what Talbot did last year. Talbot wasn't able to steal periods or games like markstrom has.

 

[Sparky93]

Basically the same as last year but that doesn’t change the fact that Markstrom is an upgrade this year over what Talbot did last year. Talbot wasn't able to steal periods or games like markstrom has.

I don't know, when Talbot is on, he's pretty good. The problem is, can you trust him to be on consistently. I know I feel a lot more comfortable with Markstrom in net and I'm sure the players do too.

 

[TheHudlinator]

I don't know, when Talbot is on, he's pretty good. The problem is, can you trust him to be on consistently. I know I feel a lot more comfortable with Markstrom in net and I'm sure the players do too.

Yea that's what I was getting at, Talbot can be great or meh. With Markstrom he always seems to be on his game which makes a big difference in goals allowed by any defense pairing

 

[Rubi]

I don't know, when Talbot is on, he's pretty good. The problem is, can you trust him to be on consistently. I know I feel a lot more comfortable with Markstrom in net and I'm sure the players do too.

This. Right now I'd feel more comfortable with Talbot as a backup that BSD.

 

[TheHudlinator]

This. Right now I'd feel more comfortable with Talbot as a backup that BSD.

I think most would but we couldn't afford him

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Pretty stark contrast. I wonder how many here still wish TJ was playing for the Flames instead of Tanev?

I'm not going to get into the Brodie vs Tanev thing but

Tanev is for Hanifin what Roman Hamrlik was for Dion Phaneuf.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Tanev has been incredible. But Hanifin absolutely deserves credit for the way he played. He’s realized that he’s bigger and faster than everyone and that he doesn’t need to get the puck back on every play. He just needs to stay with his guy and maintain his gap and beat his player to the most dangerous places on the ice. Hanifin has always needed to simplify his game to become a top pair guy, and he has done that.

 

[TheHudlinator]

I do wonder what Hanifin without Tanev would look like. Obviously I think Tanev is awesome but just any of our top 4 would be a massive upgrade on Hamonic.

 

[Volica]

Tanev has been incredible. But Hanifin absolutely deserves credit for the way he played. He’s realized that he’s bigger and faster than everyone and that he doesn’t need to get the puck back on every play. He just needs to stay with his guy and maintain his gap and beat his player to the most dangerous places on the ice. Hanifin has always needed to simplify his game to become a top pair guy, and he has done that.

This.

 

[Mazatt]

Tanev has been incredible. But Hanifin absolutely deserves credit for the way he played. He’s realized that he’s bigger and faster than everyone and that he doesn’t need to get the puck back on every play. He just needs to stay with his guy and maintain his gap and beat his player to the most dangerous places on the ice. Hanifin has always needed to simplify his game to become a top pair guy, and he has done that.

So in other words; Hanifin is what everyone thinks Bennett is?

Mostly joking but going from a poor partner in Hamonic and relied on for breakouts and the "feeling like he needs to get the puck back on every play" sounds like the reasons people have said Bennett has struggled and I think that's kinda funny that all along it was the 'dumb' Hanifin who would be nothing more than a 4D

 

[Corpus X]

Stud.

You could nail him and he'd hold it up.

 

[Volica]

I do wonder what Hanifin without Tanev would look like. Obviously I think Tanev is awesome but just any of our top 4 would be a massive upgrade on Hamonic.

Depends on who the other guy is.
Hanifin - Andersson was lights out for most of the playoffs too.

Essentially, as a Flame, minus Hamonic falling off a cliff in year two, he’s been a really solid player for Calgary. That growth in his first year was great. This year he’s taken a big step. Playing with Tanev is a Godsend.

People like to act like Karlsson didn’t play the best hockey in his life plugged in beside a defence first meat-and-potato guy. Nick Lidstrom, arguably one of the greatest all-time defender, had a 60 point rookie season playing with Brad McCrimmon.

These high skill, good skating players guys don’t need another skill guy beside them; they need a defensive guy who’s not a boat anchor.

 

[Volica]

So in other words; Hanifin is what everyone thinks Bennett is?

Mostly joking but going from a poor partner in Hamonic and relied on for breakouts and the "feeling like he needs to get the puck back on every play" sounds like the reasons people have said Bennett has struggled and I think that's kinda funny that all along it was the 'dumb' Hanifin who would be nothing more than a 4D

Hockey stan logic 101:
Player I like isn’t better because he’s not put in a position to succeed.
Player I dislike is bad even though he’s not not in a position to succeed.

2019-onward Hamonic is like Bennett only playing with Nordstrom and Rinaldo.

 

[TheHudlinator]

Depends on who the other guy is.
Hanifin - Andersson was lights out for most of the playoffs too.

Essentially, as a Flame, minus Hamonic falling off a cliff in year two, he’s been a really solid player for Calgary. That growth in his first year was great. This year he’s taken a big step. Playing with Tanev is a Godsend.

People like to act like Karlsson didn’t play the best hockey in his life plugged in beside a defence first meat-and-potato guy. Nick Lidstrom, arguably one of the greatest all-time defender, had a 60 point rookie season playing with Brad McCrimmon.

These high skill, good skating players guys don’t need another skill guy beside them; they need a defensive guy who’s not a boat anchor.

I was specifically thinking of Hanifin - Andersson it would let us try to have Tanev play with Valimaki.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

So who is the Tanev we can get for Bennett?

 

[DFF]

So who is the Tanev we can get for Bennett?

Brandon

 

[badi]

Seems strange that he does not get any PP Time and barely any Pk ice Time and still ends up at around 20 minutes a night....

 

[Body Checker]

Seems strange that he does not get any PP Time and barely any Pk ice Time and still ends up at around 20 minutes a night....

I would like to see him get some PP time. He walks the line very well. He does make the odd big mistake so could expect a shorty or two when he's out there.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

He should 100% get PP time. If I had to guess, the coaches are probably not wanting to wear him out. He is still young and logging the most important 5-on-5 minutes of his career against the hardest competition he has faced. I think as he keeps developing, this will be added onto this workload and he will be a true #1 on our team.

 

[badi]

From an outside view Hanifin should be the defenseman traded in order to get some scoring depth

He still has good value and
Other teams may see the upside he would have playing on there PP or PK

With the Flames he is not needed for that .

 

[User1996]

Thing is, we can’t trade a D without significantly hurting our group. If you move Hanifin you’re expecting 1) Valimaki to regularly play top 4 and 2) Nesterov/Mackey bring regulars in the lineup.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Yeah Hanifin has had one bad game. Valimaki has struggled all season defensively. Let’s not trade our best young D mmmkay?

 

[turnagainoutlaw]

Don't trade Hanifin, Valimaki, Andersson or Kylington. Good young D with team control are hard to come by, unless you want to tank that is.