Noah Hanifin

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  1. NHL Dude 120

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    What do you folks think of him? I don't watch the canes often but the hype for him seems pretty quiet.
     
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    underrated
     
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    Peters has been trying to ease him into the NHL. He's played most of the the last two seasons on the bottom pairing with second unit powerplay time.

    So far he's had ups and downs, with flashes of potential. After Hainsey got traded he moved up to the second pairing with Pesce and looked a lot better. During the Hurricanes playoff push he was playing over 20 minutes per game and not looking or of place doing it, so hopefully that continues into next season.
     
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    Overrated.

    People talk about him like he's a slam dunk #1, he's not impressive at all.
     
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    He's 20.
     
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    how?
     
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    Exactly, people just like to overreact.
     
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    people seem to forget just how much potential he has

    big dmen take a long time to develop, look at hedman
     
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    He's the Canes #4 right now which is just about where he should be considered right now, a decent #4 d-man. They have no need to rush him into a bigger role for the moment.

    His mistakes are typically finding himself out of position, especially deep in his own end chasing people around behind the net and in the corners. He also tends to lose leverage in board battles and in the corners, not surprising because he's so lanky and doesn't have his man strength yet. He makes up for his mistakes with pure footspeed and reach with his stick.

    Two things are encouraging: one, he rarely makes the same mistake twice; two, after Hainsey was traded last year, he moved up to the 2nd pair and almost immediately started playing with more confidence and smarts. The more minutes he plays, the better he'll get.

    hate projecting players, it's damn near impossible especially for defensemen. I don't see becoming a bona-fide #1, maybe a 1/2 tweener. I think his floor is probably a very good #3 two-way guy who can carry a pairing with an average partner - fortunately the Canes have better than average players to put with him.
     
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    Only saw him in one game last season,as he plays in the Eastern Conference...From what I saw,he was very impressive..easily a top pairing Dman..
     
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    Because he is not 'impressive' at 20 - he's overrated? With his size + skill set, Hanifin should become a high-impact D. He's a prototypical big-body defenseman; they take time to develop. His 2015 Draft counter-parts are different players, with a different set of tools. Their transition was easier because of the specific tools they had. But Hanifin is not lacking in any way, he just needs time and proper handling by the organization.

    By the way, no defensive prospect is a "slam-dunk #1". Just doesn't work that way. With D and goalies, you never know how things will work out.
     
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    Hes going to be a stud.
     
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    Please elaborate.
     
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    He's good but I think he'll be a mid level #2 defenseman for the balance of his career.
     
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    Probably better for our mental health if he doesn't
     
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    My main concern is his head. As an 18 and 19 year old defensemen he looked extremely outmatched mentally. It's more difficult to expect an improvement in the head department than it is in the physical department- in the latter improvement is more or less inevitable, he's a baby deer out there and will definitely add muscle for the NHL game.

    That said, he looked great playing with Brett Pesce in a top 4 role, so it may have been his partners Dahlbeck and Murphy dragging him down. That's the thing, it didn't look like a situation where he was clearly great, but had poor stats because of his partners, he looked legitimately terrible.
     
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    I mean, I could just as easily say look at Schenn or Cowen or Gudbranson or McIlrath or Gormley or Siemens or Reinhart.

    One case doesn't prove anything.
     
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    I've tried to watch him anytime I could because he was a player of interest in that draft.

    Seems very "meh" so far, his play leaves a lot to be desired especially on the defensive end.

    This is of course comparing him league wide, as a 20 year old who started in the NHL at 18 he still has LOTS of room for growth. Can't really judge a defenseman till around ~300 games. Even Lightning fans were growing frustrated with Hedman's slow progression until his 4th year.
     
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    The evaluations above are spot on. Since age 18 he's gone from a bottom-pair guy who was in over his head, to a middle-pair, league-average type of guy. Right now he's not blowing anyone away, but he's improving steadily and will presumably continue to do so.

    It's hard to project him any lower than someone who could anchor a second pair. His ceiling is still a #1. Strongest probabilities are somewhere in between those two (i.e., a solid #2).
     
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    i think he will start taking the top pairing steps within the next couple years. Dman traditionally take longer to develop (look at Slavin on the same team). Hanifin already has 160 NHL games as a 20 year old (!) Dman, and will have over 200 before he turns 21, which is pretty impressive when you think of it
     
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    The Leafs were slammed so hard taking marner over him.
     
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    they haven't shown the improvement of hanifin. he'll be amazing, you will see.
     

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