Trade: [NO/LA] Anthony Davis for Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, and three 1st round picks

[Voight]

Only Jordan and LeBron have a higher career PER than Davis

I'd argue it's a stretch to say Leonard is better

Fair point, but Leonard was sheltered his first 3/4 seasons behind the Big 3, and also missed basically a whole season during his prime.

 

[Say Hey Kid]

Fair point, but Leonard was sheltered his first 3/4 seasons behind the Big 3, and also missed basically a whole season during his prime.

Ridiculous. He won Finals MVP his 3rd year and DPoY his 4th year. Ginobli didn't even start. Jordan missed basically a whole season. So what.

 

[dahrougem2]

Only Jordan and LeBron have a higher career PER than Davis

I'd argue it's a stretch to say Leonard is better

Ok, and Chris Paul has a higher career PER than Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

I think you know who I'm taking in that one, too.

 

[Neutrinos]

Ok, and Chris Paul has a higher career PER than Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

I think you know who I'm taking in that one, too.

Kareem's PER is higher if you look at just his career up until his age 33 season (Paul's age)


In a direct comparison between Davis and Leonard, Davis has a career PER of 27.4, while Leonard's is 22.6

Leonard's peak season is 27.6 vs 30.8 for Davis

But since the discussion is about who is better now, their PER's for last season were:

25.8 for Leonard vs 30.3 for Davis

 

[dahrougem2]

If you look at Kareem's PER is higher if you look at just his career up until his age 33 season (Paul's age)


In a direct comparison between Davis and Leonard, Davis has a career PER of 27.4, while Leonard's is 22.6

Leonard's peak season is 27.6 vs 30.8 for Davis

But since the discussion is about who is better now, their PER's for last season were:

25.8 for Leonard vs 30.3 for Davis

I like Anthony Davis - I've said as much in this thread that I believe he's a top-5 player in the league.

I just happen to take Kawhi Leonard above him in any circumstance. Because I believe Kawhi Leonard is a top-3 player in the world, along with LeBron James and Kevin Durant.

 

[Voight]

Ridiculous. He won Finals MVP his 3rd year and DPoY his 4th year. Ginobli didn't even start. Jordan missed basically a whole season. So what.

After he won FMVP they realized what they really had and he then got a lot more exposure. Before that, they were developing him the typical Spurs way. Hence why from 13-14 to 14-15 his stats went up across the board.

 

[Neutrinos]

I like Anthony Davis - I've said as much in this thread that I believe he's a top-5 player in the league.

I just happen to take Kawhi Leonard above him in any circumstance. Because I believe Kawhi Leonard is a top-3 player in the world, along with LeBron James and Kevin Durant.

There's really no right or wrong answer here

It's not like, say, Davis vs Irving, for example

 

[Del Preston]

As more of this comes out, I wonder if some of the early speculation about the Lakers front office possibly not knowing how some of the cap details work, like the timing of the trade, is accurate. It sure seems like it.

According to Ramona Shelburne the Lakers realized after the trade was agreed to that they didn't create enough space for another max player.

 

[Terry Yake]

According to Ramona Shelburne the Lakers realized after the trade was agreed to that they didn't create enough space for another max player.

if that's true then i really don't know what to say

pelinka was an agent for years. guy has dealt with salary caps his entire career. its hard to believe they wouldn't think this all through before making the deal. unless rambis is the one truly calling every single shot without anyone else having a say

 

[InjuredChoker]

According to Ramona Shelburne the Lakers realized after the trade was agreed to that they didn't create enough space for another max player.

pelinka doesn't seem like a smart GM but i find that very hard to believe. every team has CBA experts on their payroll and pelinka himself was an agent so that should be his specialty.

 

[Del Preston]

Report: Lakers reportedly never asked Anthony Davis about waiving trade kicker

 

[Avs_19]

 

[Terry Yake]

and the lakers got AD

funny how before the trade the lakers assets were "not enough" according to the media. now its "the pelicans got an absolute HAUL" for AD

 

[dahrougem2]

I think part of the reason that package looks so appealing is because I trust David Griffin to turn those assets into something worthwhile more than I trust the Lakers brass.

Like, yeah - Anthony Davis is amazing to have, and I'm very happy he's a Laker. But the roster is literally empty outside of him, LeBron, and Kuzma since they want to move everyone else for more cap space.

I think, given all of those assets, David Griffin is going to turn New Orleans into a powerhouse sooner than later.

 

[Terry Yake]

I think part of the reason that package looks so appealing is because I trust David Griffin to turn those assets into something worthwhile more than I trust the Lakers brass.

Like, yeah - Anthony Davis is amazing to have, and I'm very happy he's a Laker. But the roster is literally empty outside of him, LeBron, and Kuzma since they want to move everyone else for more cap space.

I think, given all of those assets, David Griffin is going to turn New Orleans into a powerhouse sooner than later.

its a win-win for both teams. LA is in win now mode and the pels got some guys who can potentially become all-stars in the future and some draft picks. griffin is a great GM

lakers need that 3rd max guy bad. yes they could go the depth route but bringing in a 3rd max guy will not only help now but will be very helpful for the lakers to build around once lebron retires

 

[The Night King]

I mean, it looks impressive because it's a long list, but we won't know for a while how good any of these pieces are.

 

[Voight]

and the lakers got AD

funny how before the trade the lakers assets were "not enough" according to the media. now its "the pelicans got an absolute HAUL" for AD

Bostons "war chest" of assets

 

[King Mapes]

Only Jordan and LeBron have a higher career PER than Davis

I'd argue it's a stretch to say Leonard is better

It’s not a stretch. Leonard is a 2 time defensive player of the year, 2 time Finals MVP and 2 time NBA Champion. If we had DD this year instead, I doubt we even beat Phili.

They are both outstanding all around players I just don’t see how you can say it’s a stretch when he has won more.

 

[The Night King]

 

[darko]

its a win-win for both teams. LA is in win now mode and the pels got some guys who can potentially become all-stars in the future and some draft picks. griffin is a great GM

lakers need that 3rd max guy bad. yes they could go the depth route but bringing in a 3rd max guy will not only help now but will be very helpful for the lakers to build around once lebron retires

You can have CP3 ...... for free.

 

[Voight]

I don't know if you could find another GM who would take him without any sweeteners added.

 

[Terry Yake]

You can have CP3 ...... for free.

 

[Peiskos]

Lakers will still have to add, Davis and an aging LeBron and essentially nobody else of note loses in 5 or less to Kawhi's Raptors. I still wouldn't bet on them to make it out of the west next year.

 

[MMC]

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Ridiculously lucky break for the Lakers that he waived it.