Nils Lundkvist vs. Rasmus Sandin vs. Alexander Alexeyev vs. Bode Wilde

[Rass]

Curious to know what you think of these defensemen taken late in the first round, early second rond. I know their strenghts and flaws, saw them quite a bit but can't separate them that much. Not saying they are in the same mold at all.

Who do you see having the best NHL career, as opposed to the one having the most fantasy value?

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[Killerjas]

vs. Adam Boqvist vs. Ty Smith vs. Noah Dobson vs. Xavier Bouchard

 

[MR4]

vs. Adam Boqvist vs. Ty Smith vs. Noah Dobson vs. Xavier Bouchard

"Taken late in the first round" as in those guys are completely irrelevant

Give me Sandin

 

[93LEAFS]

Why just why. Sandin thread was basically left alone and was kept out of pissing matches. Couldn't we keep it that way?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Wilde
Alexeyev
Lundkvist
Sandin

 

[Mrb1p]

Alexeyev was 10th on my list, he has all the tools to be something great. Was ranked lower due to injury, WSH lucked out there.

Lunkvist was 14th on my list, mainly because of his smarts and positioning. Good wheels too, not much of a shot though.

Wilde was 26th on my list, great tools, elite tools I should say, his reads are bad and his risk is bad, he can be a shutdown D if he concentrates on it, but hes a volatile player. Looked great in his D-1, looked bad in his d year, but no USDP D looked good.

Sandin was 43th in my rankings... hes fine, hes a toned down version of Lundkvist, similar tools but even less offensive upside.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Wilde was 26th on my list, great tools, elite tools I should say, his reads are bad and his risk is bad, he can be a shutdown D if he concentrates on it, but hes a volatile player. Looked great in his D-1, looked bad in his d year, but no USDP D looked good.

I thought he had a very good season. Its just that all anyone remembers is the one tournament that is televised across the major hockey networks around the world.

 

[Mrb1p]

I thought he had a very good season. Its just that all anyone remembers is the one tournament that is televised across the major hockey networks around the world.

Yeah, he did better than what people say but I still expected a bit better, anyhow, 26 isnt too far down on my list. He had to drop a bit due to his play.... hes a player I loved for the first half of the year then soured upon a bit. Going that late was a shocker for me.

 

[Lays]

Wilde
Lundkvist
Alexeyev
(Small gap)
Sandin

 

[Captain Clutch]

Lundkvist
Alexeyev
Wilde
Sandin

My personal view is that Lundkvist's hockey IQ is far superior to everyone else other than Alexeyev (who has an equivalent defensive IQ but a lesser offensive IQ)
I think Wilde and Sandin are both very marginal NHL players (at the current time) due to a significantly lesser hockey IQ
No question that Wilde has the best physical toolkit followed by Alexeyev but Wilde also has the lowest floor to go along with it
Lundkvist's overall game reminds me a lot of Cam Fowler, he's the youngest of the bunch and will need a full three years (or more) to be NHL ready

 

[Mrb1p]

Lundkvist
Alexeyev
Wilde
Sandin

My personal view is that Lundkvist's hockey IQ is far superior to everyone else other than Alexeyev (who has an equivalent defensive IQ but a lesser offensive IQ)
I think Wilde and Sandin are both very marginal NHL players (at the current time) due to a significantly lesser hockey IQ
No question that Wilde has the best physical toolkit followed by Alexeyev but Wilde also has the lowest floor to go along with it
Lundkvist's overall game reminds me a lot of Cam Fowler, he's the youngest of the bunch and will need a full three years (or more) to be NHL ready

Im not sure Bode has a better tool kit than AlexAlex. He can literally do anything you want, plus that big frame, wish my team grabbed him.

Hes so good, I wouldnt even have minded the Habs snagging him with their first. Thats how good he is.

 

[Habs76]

Alexeyev
Lundkvist

Sandin






Wilde

 

[Castle8130]

Lundkvist is probably the best of those players rn, but Sandin and Alexeyev have the most offensive potential. I'll go:

Lundkvist
Alexyeyev
Sandin









Wilde

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Lundkvist
Alexeyev
Wilde
Sandin

My personal view is that Lundkvist's hockey IQ is far superior to everyone else other than Alexeyev (who has an equivalent defensive IQ but a lesser offensive IQ)
I think Wilde and Sandin are both very marginal NHL players (at the current time) due to a significantly lesser hockey IQ
No question that Wilde has the best physical toolkit followed by Alexeyev but Wilde also has the lowest floor to go along with it
Lundkvist's overall game reminds me a lot of Cam Fowler, he's the youngest of the bunch and will need a full three years (or more) to be NHL ready

are you thinking of a different Sandin?

 

[Habs76]

are you thinking of a different Sandin?

Yeah his IQ and agility are perhaps his greatest two assets.

 

[Critical13]

I think it would be dumb to presume there is any true ranking of these guys right now.

Let's look back on this next year.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Sandin
Alexeyev
Lundkvist

Wilde

 

[SI90]

I was ridiculously high on Sandin and high on Wilde.

If Wilde can get the necessary coaching and development he can become a monster.

 

[LordNeverLose]

The one on my team is the best

 

[MatthewFlames]

Alexeyev was 10th on my list, he has all the tools to be something great. Was ranked lower due to injury, WSH lucked out there.

Im not sure Bode has a better tool kit than AlexAlex. He can literally do anything you want, plus that big frame, wish my team grabbed him. Hes so good, I wouldnt even have minded the Habs snagging him with their first. Thats how good he is.

I totally agree. In a year where there wasn't an in-vogue trend of smaller high skilled defenseman, AA would have gone top 15. A big guy who can move like he does, that has such great defensive chops as a 17-year-old and doesn't make mistakes, with unmistakable offensive upside and some dangle is extremely valuable. He's a very projectable player and a guy who's shown a great work ethic. Plus the ability to deal with immense personal difficulties, as well as his injuries, what's not to love? Washington is a great place for him to develop, they won't rush him. But I wouldn't be that surprised if he ended up having a long look at camp and sniffing the NHL roster right off the bat. He's just that kind of player that you can see making the jump.

 

[Mrb1p]

I totally agree. In a year where there wasn't an in-vogue trend of smaller high skilled defenseman, AA would have gone top 15. A big guy who can move like he does, that has such great defensive chops as a 17-year-old and doesn't make mistakes, with unmistakable offensive upside and some dangle is extremely valuable. He's a very projectable player and a guy who's shown a great work ethic. Plus the ability to deal with immense personal difficulties, as well as his injuries, what's not to love? Washington is a great place for him to develop, they won't rush him. But I wouldn't be that surprised if he ended up having a long look at camp and sniffing the NHL roster right off the bat. He's just that kind of player that you can see making the jump.

I think ultimately he goes back to the dub and becomes a force on the back end, producing big numbers. Some will bite their fingers IMO.

 

[Maplebeasts]

I like Alexeyev best. The rest are interchangeable

 

[uncleben]

This is how I had them ranked going into the draft, but at this point it's anybody's game.
Predictions are so not predictive to begin with, and then factor in any unforeseen injuries, and the fact that they will all be developing with different teams and in different systems, everybody's opinion is as valid as the next


Bode Wilde
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Rasmus Sandin
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Alexander Alexeyev
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Nils Lundkvist

 

[Kel Varnson]

Any reason why you chose Wilde over the 4 other D men drafted between him and Alexeyev?

Samuelsson
McIsaac
Woo
Romanov

Were all taken before Wilde

 

[Rass]

Any reason why you chose Wilde over the 4 other D men drafted between him and Alexeyev?

Samuelsson
McIsaac
Woo
Romanov

Were all taken before Wilde

Those are four players I really like too, but my mind is better on how they compare themselves to those in my OP. Alexeyev, Lundkvist and Sandin on the other hand are much harder to separate, Wilde being the wild card.