Discussion in 'Vancouver Canucks' started by Zombotron, Nov 14, 2020.
Prospect Info: - 2019 40th overall: Vancouver selects Nils Höglander (LW, Rögle BK)
Very good player
Rogle force OT, so lets see if HOglander gets any 3v3 time! 5-5 through 3 periods. Hoglander played 12:58 in regulation with 1 shot.
Edit* - Rogle take a penalty 38s into OT , and Orebro scores 27s into their PP
Sounded like quite a barn burner surprised hoglander didn't get any points.
Chris Abbott, Rogle GM, just on-air with Donnie Taylor on TSN 1040. Says Hoglander is closer to being NHL-ready than many realize. They're not counting on him being back after Canucks training camp.
I really love to be optimistic like many of you folks here on our prospects, but experience has thought me otherwise.
You folks are giving me flashbacks of early 2010 when many in this board was following a certain Anton Rodin (a smallish but very skilled Swedish player) that we thought was going to make the Canucks.
19 year old Rodin had 26 points in 53 games in the SEL.
Lets hope this time, Nils pans out.
So are you suggesting Hoglander may only win one Art Ross trophy???
No I’m saying he may bust and not turn out to be the player we thought he would be. Basically don’t get too attached.
In a softer more positive tone, yes he may only win one art ross throphy for us.
Just like telling my kids that Mr. Fluffy has gone to a better place to soften the blow even though in reality, I don’t think there’s a doggy heaven.
I would lose interest with the team if I couldn't get attached to the youngsters we draft.
Just stop over projecting players just because they are prospects of YOUR team.
Rodin ran into injury problems in A. Was never the same player afterwards.
The likely route for Hoglander to make it as an NHL regular will be through the bottom 6 and working his way up the lineup. I think he'll be more durable than Rodin in that he plays a more physical game and is more solidly built. But it remains to be seen whether his skilled pest game will translate.
It would be great if Hogs becomes a 20 year old (more skilled) version of Roussel. Hogs actually has the tools to become a guy like Marchand. With these smaller guys it so often comes down to character and mental toughness. Can Hogs overcome the intimidating heavy players in the National league, or does he stay on the perimeter? If he has the mental toughness (character) to overcome I think we will have a very good player; no denying his skill is elite.
I'm not very concerned about Hoglander's ability to handle the harder, physical minutes in the NHL. He may be only 5'9" but he's built like a tank at 190....and he's a feisty player who plays with a serious edge. Those flying elbows that got him suspended were reminiscent of those elbows that Bure used to dish out at times, when players tried to take advantage of him.
The only thing that might hold him back is whether he can play defense in his own zone to satisfy Green. I really hope that if he does get off to a slow start in that area, that the Canucks are patient with him. A year of heavy lifting in the NHL would do him far more good than another middling season in the SHL imo.
All guys who carry the puck need to have mental toughness. They all are targets. I hope you’re right and Hogs has that kind of character, because I think he has incredible skill.
Finally back! Hoglander and his Rogle teammates will be playing their 1st game in nearly 2.5 weeks this morning. I believe Nils has 6 more games available before his SHL loan expires.
Looks to be on the 2nd line today.
Beautiful tip. It's really hard to contain the excitement I have for this player. I see the kind of player I hoped Rodin would be for us after his golden helmet win. High skill top 6 guy with 50-60 plus point potential. Maybe more if he can get the right opportunity beside EP and Miller?
Finishes the game with 1G 3 Shots (5 attempts), in 16:05TOI.
There was an attempt
Can any of the data nerds (@Melvin) say what the likelihood of Hoglander becoming an NHLer is based on his draft +1 and 2 seasons so far?
Without a doubt the best Swedish hockey player to play for the Canucks since Elias Petterssen
You got Swedish players draft # here from recent to 1974 (perhaps the last 10 years are more representative than going with the full list).
Jonathan Dahlén #42 2016 (Höglander #40), there is hope. But there are heaps of heaps of players on the list who have not turned out well in the 2nd round.
I know lots of skill guys have tried that lacrosse style goal, but I have to say that of all of them, Hoglander might have perfected the art better than anyone. How he can cradle the puck while he's still in motion and whip it to the front of net in the blink of an eye is pretty mind-blowing. Also mind-boggling is the number of hours of practice to refine the technique.
This is one special player, who when he hits the NHL will be an aggravating guy to play against. He has that swagger about him, and will make opposing players look bad on occasion. So his hot-dogging might draw a crowd of angry hornets, but he seems to have the jam to back it up.
Pretty sure Hoglander is an NHL player pretty soon, but I have always considered him a stockier Arvidsson, who is very skilled and plays like an absolutely dynamo, and a good complementary top line player, but not a good PP player (not creative enough?) and may still have durability issues. So I am unsure whether he can become a Marchand, similar concern as a poster above on defensive game, but more on hockey smarts in general. Glad to be proven wrong though!
COVID makes it basically impossible to compare, unfortunately.
it’s crucial to know if he’d be in the AHL/NHL and if so what his performance is there, given its D+2.
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