Player Discussion: Nikolaj Ehlers
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There is an excellent example currently checked into the Fairmont of panic trading your talent for a quick fix just because, ya'know, "something is off".
Hes just looking for his confidence back. When he gets it he will pile up the points.
it would be more reassuring if he was at least playing good but he isn't even doing that. vertanan has more goals.
Duke749
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I would say that’s partly because he can immediately generate offense no matter where he is playing. That’s a big responsibility for a young guy like him.
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Hopefully line 2 continues to improve (one game - small sample but I'm optimistic) - I want to see him settle in as well.
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I'm so sick of the ass kissing. See where Lowry scored from? Puljaarvi? If you don't get put on your ass once in a while trying to get a greasy goal, you're playing soft. I hope he gets going, because the wow factor is there in his skating, but the drive is off. The longer he goes without producing, last night's poke at Nurse, for the fly-by, is going to get him in any coach's doghouse.
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I am guessing the coaching staff arent great at reading personality types, Ehlers shouldnt be shuffled around too much
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The onus is on the coach here, if he cannot get Ehlers to produce, it certainly is his responsibility. This isnt your NHL Xbox game where you arent dealing with humans. I wouldnt shuffle a whole lot with Ehlers, I think its the only issue here
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Completely disagree. Ultimately every player is responsible for their own play and coach is responsible for the team's play. Mo may have a lot to answer for, but Ehlers has to take the onus for his own play.
roslovic has shown nothing that says he should play on 2nd line. in fact if anything he plays north south too. he should replace ehlers on 2nd line since he plays more like little then ehlers does.
I agree. Completely wrong way to work him out of the pit that he is in with his self confidence right now. I admit I haven’t been the biggest fan of Ehlers, but I do have to admit also that how he is treated at the moment is complete bullcrap. Almost like Maurice is intentionally wanting to crush his confidence.
In my opinion what Ehlers would very much need now is playing with Scheifele and with clearly more minutes. He is now in a vicious circle that he seriously hasn’t deserved by his previous results.
Maurice needs to take his head out of his ass and realize that what he is doing is not the way how to treat young talented players whom have already proven their capability to play with high class players with 1st or 2nd line minutes. He for sure hasn’t deserved bullcrap like 10-12 minutes per game.
Goddamn I’m getting frustrated!
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Part of me agrees with this but I also think that the onus is on the player as well (as probabltwrongbut mentioned), it's not Maurices fault that Ehlers makes poor choices like blindly throwing a pass up the middle of the ice to no one in OT!
Can’t also say what you are saying is wrong. But sometimes the coach needs to help a player whom is in the pit with their self confidence. I see this as that kind of a situation, as I believe that Ehlers’s crappy play is mostly due to how horribly low his self confidence is at the moment. He needs the rope to get out of the pit. Not the rough shove in the back that just throws him even deeper to the pit where he is now.
why on earth should he take connor of that line just to get ehlers going. he is being paid 6 million . he should be able to play anywhere. cant believe some of this entitlement people think young players deserve. blaming Maurice is par for the coarse instead of placing the blame where it really belongs. he should be in the pb not the 1st line. he was horrible for almost half a year now. he played with stastny alot yet scored 1 goal in 40 games and 0 in playoffs.
What happened to the attitude that players will be ready to contribute when called upon and it is their responsibility to be ready for that opportunity. Mo showed confidence in Ehlers by giving him 3 on 3 time instead of putting Little on the ice, rope. Ehlers can't blame Mo for his trying to pass the puck to Schief when he is double covered and was trying to skate off the ice.
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I don't know if it's a coaching change or how opponents are playing against Ehlers and Laine but Ehlers hasn't made those little drop passes after the blue line. When they played with Stastny it seemed to work and it usually lead to a good scoring change (mostly because Laine's shot).
Do you actually believe that being in the PB would help Ehlers perform better, or is this just stemming from some sense of justice?
People blame the coach because it's his responsibility to motivate and handle players.
If NHL players, people who are getting millions aren't properly motivated. Spooky. I would agree that it's the coach's job to properly utilize players, which Mo isn't doing. It's also a lot easier to replace a coach than a player therefore they are easier to blame.
Ehlers is playing like crap and yet somehow has the same amount of even strength points as Wheeler & Scheif (while playing significantly less minutes). Can't touch the top line though.
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I think Ehlers might be better on another team. I find the problem is not only does he make selfish plays the odd time, but he's too reliant on his speed from time-to-time, doesn't contribute offensively as often anymore and his finishing isn't necessarily up to par. Not necessarily the guy to drive the play, but he's very good at joining rushes and positioning.
I find Laine plays better when he's with Scheifele and Wheeler, not so much with Ehlers. I think Ehlers might play better with Roslovic as I also find he doesn't fit well with Little either.
This is how I might do the lines right now.
Laine-Scheifele-Wheeler
Connor-Little-Roslovic
Vesalainen-Copp-Ehlers
Perreault-Lowry-Tanev
I want to see Connor-Roslovic-Ehlers tested out at some point as I truly believe there might be potential for these three to excel together there.
I find Laine plays better when he's with Scheifele and Wheeler, not so much with Ehlers. I think Ehlers might play better with Roslovic as I also find he doesn't fit well with Little either.
This is how I might do the lines right now.
Laine-Scheifele-Wheeler
Connor-Little-Roslovic
Vesalainen-Copp-Ehlers
Perreault-Lowry-Tanev
I want to see Connor-Roslovic-Ehlers tested out at some point as I truly believe there might be potential for these three to excel together there.
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I don't know how you can say Ehlers is to reliant on his speed ?? Lately he is not relying on his speed enough, and making those offensive charges and opening up ice. In today's NHL that attracts the best players from all over the world-"speed is the name of the game"--and yes speed kills.
Just look at how McDavid used his "speed' to lead the Oilers from a 4-1 deficit in the 3rd period to tie the game up. At first he went right around Trouba, like he was a motionless pylon, and scored a beauty. He then used his speed to start the Jets reeling and backing up in their own tracks, and panicking. You have to use your speed.
In my opinion Ehlers has to use his speed more, and be more effective with it, the same way McDavid uses his speed. Ehlers may not be as fast as McDavid, but he wouldn't be more than a 1/2 step behind him. Get that "speed" going again Niky.
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