Rumor: Nikitin being shopped?
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From the Sens blog linked:
"Sens have bodies in the AHL to trade in Da Costa and Hoffman and roster players *cough, Greening, cough* they might be wise to unload. There is a deal to be made here."
Anybody know anything about these guys?
"Sens have bodies in the AHL to trade in Da Costa and Hoffman and roster players *cough, Greening, cough* they might be wise to unload. There is a deal to be made here."
Anybody know anything about these guys?
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I've watched the Sens often over the years, so I know Da Costa and Greening, though I've never noticed Hoffman.
Greening is a big-body fast-skating guy who doesn't have the best hands (not as bad as Jack Skille, though). He played on Spezza's wing a couple years ago and had about 40 points.. But that's not much given the opportunity. (That's not anything we couldn't get by plugging in our other middle-six guys (Foligno, Umby, etc....) into that spot.) He is responsible though, so I'd expect him to be good on the bottom-six, but I haven't seen enough this year to know if he's a part of the Sens meltdown this year or not.
Da Costa is a slick playmaking center, but very lightweight. He'd have no role in Columbus.
I'd do Greening for Nikitin if the Sens threw in Hoffman or a mid-round pick or something. They have a lot more need for Nikitin (their defensive game is in ruins) than we do for Greening, though I think he'd be useful.
Edit: Also, Greening is a Newfie who went to Cornell. So according to the Doug Maclean Theory of Value, he possesses unsurpassed character and should be immediately acquired.
if he WASN'T being shopped, I'd be surprised....
but i think anyone wanting impact scoring in a Nikitin trade will need to lower their expectations based on the names being thrown out here.
but i think anyone wanting impact scoring in a Nikitin trade will need to lower their expectations based on the names being thrown out here.
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Have to think there is something other than another depth forward to be had around the league, from a team looking for a #5 or 6 defenseman. I'd rather have a depth draft pick than another 13th forward ... we already have 174 of those.
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Handful of teams need a steady D. Jarmo should be investigating his options. Wouldn't rule out Ottawa, but wouldn't focus fan attention solely on the Sens just because a Sens blogger made what is essentially a proposal thread on the trade board.
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I also wouldn't focus on solely on Nikitin either. I agree with others that we need a depth F like we need a hole in the head. We need F's who can play top 6 like its supposed to be played. I'd put JJ in play if it would bring a top 6 guy.
Edmonton? Although they appear to be brain dead-they need to fire MacTavish and elevate xbjgmsh to eogmsh so he can build them the same way he built this juggernaut.
Edmonton? Although they appear to be brain dead-they need to fire MacTavish and elevate xbjgmsh to eogmsh so he can build them the same way he built this juggernaut.
Seriously? Not gonna happen. Big minutes guy with an affordable cap hit.
I'm not as concerned about our top six as most seem to be around here. That might seem strange with my stance on Prospal.
I have no desire to move any of our top three defense for "top six" help. It would have to be legit top line.
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I have to ask the question, would Nikitin truly bring back any sort of return worthwhile to this team? I don't know that his value is very high right now considering he has been the scratch in a pretty poor team defense recently.
If he is traded to get Erixon back in the lineup, I think its got to be a package deal of some sort.
If he is traded to get Erixon back in the lineup, I think its got to be a package deal of some sort.
If you get some cap relief back, a pick would be fine. His value was never all that high anyway. High meaning, we weren't really going to get back anything that we don't already have. He had a good run when we first got him, but he hasn't been anything special for a while now. He was fairly decent last season.
Personally I'm not looking for a roster player back. If you get a forward, your just going to get back more depth. Maybe you can get a moderate upside prospect.
It all depends on what your goals are.
I don't mind Nikitin, I just thing we have better options. I also doubt we want to give him his next contract here.
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Yeah, I guess it depends on how the FO views depth throughout the organization. Could you use another 3rd-line NHL player in exchange for a 2-3 pairing d-man? I don't really have a strong opinion.
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Nikitin has shown he can play at a higher level. The problem is consistency. So his value depends on what potential a team thinks he has.
When the injuries strike the dmen, having Nikitin and Erixon will be helpful, but at this point, the Jackets are a young team trying to get players experience. Nikitin isn't part of the future, then might as well add a player that might be.
Adding an underperforming winger with a huge salary doesn't seem worth it. I'd rather see trades for potential top 6 skilled forwards who may not help immediately. I know that isn't going to help the scoring slump now, but it's a chance maybe to add pieces that are needed not short term fixes. If teams are desperate for defensive help and don't want to subtract from their NHL roster, maybe the CBJ can get a decent prospect from their AHL team.
When the injuries strike the dmen, having Nikitin and Erixon will be helpful, but at this point, the Jackets are a young team trying to get players experience. Nikitin isn't part of the future, then might as well add a player that might be.
Adding an underperforming winger with a huge salary doesn't seem worth it. I'd rather see trades for potential top 6 skilled forwards who may not help immediately. I know that isn't going to help the scoring slump now, but it's a chance maybe to add pieces that are needed not short term fixes. If teams are desperate for defensive help and don't want to subtract from their NHL roster, maybe the CBJ can get a decent prospect from their AHL team.
In my mind, because you have Erixon and Goloubef in the A waiting for call ups, Nikitin is an expendable piece. Nikita has value to other clubs because of his play. He might not be the most rock solid in his own end, but he possesses a great shot and could be a contributor to a team with a struggling power play or looking to improve a second unit. It will be interesting to see what happens. We definitely need some scoring and skill. I like some of the names being thrown around here.
I have no issue with Nikitin or his "consistency". I have an issue with his next contract.
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Eric Fehr suggested on the trade boards. Too much of the same thing?
Brouwer also suggested but he makes too much and has at least some kind of NMC.
Brouwer also suggested but he makes too much and has at least some kind of NMC.
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If you can get Panik, run with it. Having said that, you might want to start looking at teams with some cap space. Combined we almost have nothing.
With two guys already on LTIR, I'm not even sure what options they have. That's like a cap management nightmare that I really don't want to review again.
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on a tangent...if we do ship out NN to bring up Erixon...who finds the press box at that point??? Savard? Erixon? Finally JJ or Wiz??
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That could work out, but Panik is -9, playing on the 4th line and likely going to be a healthy scratch fairly soon in Tampa. I'm not sure what's gone wrong with him. He has a reputation for being a bit lazy and out of condition (sort of like Voracek) so he might not fit into the mix in Columbus with defensively responsible forwards. But it could be taking a risk on a high reward skilled forward. He's Slovakian so maybe Gaborik would work as a mentor. They need more skill and less grinders.
Tampa has so much depth at forward and they may cut him lose to make room for other players. I'm not sure how long they plan to keep Kucherov in the AHL scoring a 2 points a game pace.
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Fro
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true, but the conspiracy theorist in me tends to think its more to showcase Nikitin for trade than for bad play on Savard's part...
