Nick Shore - A more effective 4C Option than Lehtera

[TB87]

Nick Shore: Fourth Line Center Option for the Philadelphia Flyers - Last Word on Hockey

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[FlyTimmo]

99.99% of NHLers would be more effective 4c options than Lehbada

 

[Hakroach]

I think Hextall will give him or someone similar a tryout. If he outperforms Vorobyev and others in the camp, he'll get a contract.

 

[TB87]

I think Hextall will give him or someone similar a tryout. If he outperforms Vorobyev and others in the camp, he'll get a contract.

You think he’d be competing with the prospects and not Lehtera? Signing Shore for $1 million and sending Lehtera to the AHL (saves the team $1 million). Then, a prospect could take on 3C duties. Or Shore gets 3C and prospect starts off as a 4C.

 

[wasup]

No thanks to Shore , Lethera is only here for one more year and Kids can fill in and get some experience that could end up better than Shore and probably will so why bother .

 

[Deadpool8812]

No thanks to Shore , Lethera is only here for one more year and Kids can fill in and get some experience that could end up better than Shore and probably will so why bother .

Well if we sign him to a PTO and he makes the team, he likely signs a cheap contract for 1 season. Not a big deal

 

[TB87]

No thanks to Shore , Lethera is only here for one more year and Kids can fill in and get some experience that could end up better than Shore and probably will so why bother .

Shore would add more value to the lineup than Lehtera at 5v5, even-strength, and the penalty kill. Dude doesn’t have the wheels to compete in the NHL at an even adequate level.

A 1 year deal for $1 million should suffice for Shore. Sending Lehtera to the AHL would make Shore’s contract a freebie. Prospects, or Laughton, could compete for the 3C.

 

[TB87]

Well if we sign him to a PTO and he makes the team, he likely signs a cheap contract for 1 season. Not a big deal

Pretty sure 3C is earmarked for one of the prospects or Laughton too. This signing wouldn’t block any of the kids I don’t believe.

 

[wasup]

Shore would add more value to the lineup than Lehtera at 5v5, even-strength, and the penalty kill. Dude doesn’t have the wheels to compete in the NHL at an even adequate level.

A 1 year deal for $1 million should suffice for Shore. Sending Lehtera to the AHL would make Shore’s contract a freebie. Prospects, or Laughton, could compete for the 3C.

Lethera is not and i repeat not going to the AHL no matter how much people want . He could be healthy scratched once in a while but no way he get sent down

 

[TB87]

Lethera is not and i repeat not going to the AHL no matter how much people want . He could be healthy scratched once in a while but no way he get sent down

Okay. For me, it’s not a matter of want. It’s a matter of realistic talent evaluation. His true talent level is that of an AHL player.

Do you know something the rest of us don’t? Why is that option not even a possibility in your estimation?

 

[Curufinwe]

I'm not sure Lehtera is viewed as a center option. Hextall hasn't mentioned him as being one recently, and he played the vast majority of last season as a wing.

 

[TheKingPin]

I think Hextall will give him or someone similar a tryout. If he outperforms Vorobyev and others in the camp, he'll get a contract.

That would be ideal.

 

[Hakroach]

You think he’d be competing with the prospects and not Lehtera? Signing Shore for $1 million and sending Lehtera to the AHL (saves the team $1 million). Then, a prospect could take on 3C duties. Or Shore gets 3C and prospect starts off as a 4C.

I hope to see proper competition for roster spots for everyone. At least in the bottom6 there shouldn't be any guarantees. But I'm doubtful that they would send Lehts to the AHL. The coach seems to love him for some reason.

 

[TB87]

I hope to see proper competition for roster spots for everyone. At least in the bottom6 there shouldn't be any guarantees. But I'm doubtful that they would send Lehts to the AHL. The coach seems to love him for some reason.

“Heavy body, veteran presence.”
- Dave Hakstol (probably)


Hextall can take the option of playing him away from Dave. Good GM’s rid their coach’s of their favorite toys...which for too many coach’s is their team’s worst players. Coach’s are weird man.

 

[Hakroach]

“Heavy body, veteran presence.”
- Dave Hakstol (probably)


Hextall can take the option of playing him away from Dave. Good GM’s rid their coach’s of their favorite toys...which for too many coach’s is their team’s worst players. Coach’s are weird man.

Hextall tries to be a "modern" leader who communicates with his subordinates and so on. I doubt he would send a (veteran) player down if Hak would oppose it.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Certainly wouldn't mind Shore here as a bottom liner, but I really don't think he'd be that much of an improvement over what we have in the system. If we're just talking about Lehtera then yeah every day of the week, but Shore might be a good placeholder.

 

[TB87]

Hextall tries to be a "modern" leader who communicates with his subordinates and so on. I doubt he would send a (veteran) player down if Hak would oppose it.

Took away the option of Vandevelde, Filppula, & Manning. They butted heads over Sanheim during the middle of the season (from what I’ve heard). Regardless of signing Shore or not, I think it’s realistic that Lehtera gets the Matt Read AHL treatment this year.

 

[wasup]

Okay. For me, it’s not a matter of want. It’s a matter of realistic talent evaluation. His true talent level is that of an AHL player.

Do you know something the rest of us don’t? Why is that option not even a possibility in your estimation?

By his usage last year and the fact he was better in playoffs. I'm not a fan he is to slow to me but coach used him in last mins and seems to trust him i think the only way we get rid of him is when Hextall does not resign him . This is just a feeling i have no insider info here at all .

 

[TB87]

By his usage last year and the fact he was better in playoffs. I'm not a fan he is to slow to me but coach used him in last mins and seems to trust him i think the only way we get rid of him is when Hextall does not resign him . This is just a feeling i have no insider info here at all .

Okie dokie. To be fair, being a smidge better than replacement-level in the playoffs (6 game sample size) isn’t much of an improvement. He’s just so abominably slow. It’s confusing to me how slow he is. I remember reading last summer that he worked with a speed skating instructor prior to the season. That anecdote still makes me burst out laughing.

 

[Magua]

 

[TB87]

I'm confused by this! What is this madness!

 

[Magua]

I'm confused by this! What is this madness!

Yes, of course. Allow me to summarize from the HFBoards Flyers Scriptures:

That weird character, who looks like a homeless sexual deviant farmer, you see in the above gifs is "Torgo." We gifted Jori Lehtera with the moniker, "Torgo" (or "Lehtorgo"), this season after the same character from the schlocky 60s horror film, Manos: The Hands of Fate, which was given a wider audience in a classic episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000. One could say the movie's place among critics is akin to Lehtera's place among NHL players in xGF%. Torgo is a satyr-like creep who, as he is fond of saying, "takes care of the place while The Master is away." Our Lehtorgo has been known to "take care of the PK and 4C while the Laughton is away." It came about when one intelligent poster noted that Jori's skating form was similar to Torgo's gimpy shuffle.

At this point I cannot tell you anymore, Ted. I must show you.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I suspect you could surgically swap Shore's feet with his hands and still have a player better than Lehtorgo.

 

[Provorov4Norris]

how about they get Blair Betts instead?

 

[Adam Warlock]

how about they get Blair Betts instead?

Or Glen Metropolit. Or Jim Dowd.

So many scrubs to choose from.