Lilhoody
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I am not sure why you don't like Stepan. I agree he isn't a 1C but he is solid on D , PKs, and gets the toughest assignments, holds his own. He is still our best all around forward.
Really? Better than Richardson?
I am not sure why you don't like Stepan. I agree he isn't a 1C but he is solid on D , PKs, and gets the toughest assignments, holds his own. He is still our best all around forward.
Richardson is having a career year. I agree he's probably better this year but Stepan has been pretty consistent over the years.Really? Better than Richardson?
I'm glad you brought that back around, I like Stepan but I take a healthy Hanzal all day every day!Stepan is a 2/3C. He should be used as a checking center like he was in New York. He is a facilitator, not a driver. He's like a "rich man's" Hanzal in respect to skill, only without the size, reach, and meanness which made Hanzal so valuable -- so he's a poor man's Hanzal despite being more skilled. Richardson is a career good bottom-six forward having a Cinderella year.
If either of those guys are in the discussion for "best all around forward" the team is bad. Which it is, so. ..
I'm glad you brought that back around, I like Stepan but I take a healthy Hanzal all day every day!
And play he does. The most minutes of any forward and a real dynamo on the PP. At least his minutes suggest that. RT always says "you earn ice time", well, I think he was watching game tape when Stepan played in New York. I hated that trade when it happened, and I hate it even more now.That's the rub. Hanzal was rarely healthy. Stepan at least plays.
A one legged Hanzal is better than a two legged Stepan. When Hanzal was healthy, he was a beast. Too bad injuries derailed his career.I don't recall Stepan being used as a checking center in NY. Was he not their No. 1C until they brought in Zibanejad?
I take Stepan over Hanzal and it's not even close IMO. Hanzal brings a lot of those other attributes you listed but they aren't so valuable when he can't stay in the lineup.
Why isn't Crouse signed? Maybe he has to say he is injured and can't play.
I don't recall Stepan being used as a checking center in NY. Was he not their No. 1C until they brought in Zibanejad?
Well, I wasn't comparing them off ice or comparing durability...but they aren't so valuable when he can't stay in the lineup.
Lot easier to talk contracts with guys who aren't playing every day and have more down time to think about a contract extension then players who are trying to focus on learning the systems day in and day out and learn about their matchups for the next game.My thinking is that Chayka isn't going to address any more contracts until after the season's over - maybe not until Tucson's season ends, for that matter. We have a raft of RFA and depth signings to get to and Noel Hoefenmayer still doesn't have a contract yet (and his rights expire at the start of June) so I'm hoping the front office is working on all of this right now.
Lot easier to talk contracts with guys who aren't playing every day and have more down time to think about a contract extension then players who are trying to focus on learning the systems day in and day out and learn about their matchups for the next game.
Well we were ravaged at C this year.And play he does. The most minutes of any forward and a real dynamo on the PP. At least his minutes suggest that. RT always says "you earn ice time", well, I think he was watching game tape when Stepan played in New York. I hated that trade when it happened, and I hate it even more now.
I like Stepan and thought at the. Time
Stepan is a useful player, but mostly what I'm pissed about is how RT utilized him. I think you would be hard pressed to find two games where Stepan didn't have the most ice time of any forward regardless of how he played. There is no way in hell Stepan, Panik and Fischer deserved the PP time they got this year. Combined they got 5 friggin points. RT and Chayka had all year to figure out the PP, they didn't and it probably cost us a playoff berth. If RT would have at least tried other players and had the same result I could understand that he is a least trying to figure out our PP. Overall, I'm happy how things went, but let's be honest, if not for Kuemper we would have been out of it a long time ago.Well we were ravaged at C this year.
I like Stepan and thought at the. Time we acquired him that based on the relative mediocrity of the draft at the time that the risk was worth it.
Stepan could bounce back next year, but my point was his play this year and how RT kept on flogging the same dead horses on the PP. Based on his play, why did Stepan get more TOI than any other forward?If he were putting up his usual 55 (or close to it) I don't think too many would be overly worried about it. But that decline from 55 to a prorated 39 looks freaking cavernous. And he's only 28 the decline shouldn't be hitting this damn hard.
Stepan could bounce back next year, but my point was his play this year and how RT kept on flogging the same dead horses on the PP. Based on his play, why did Stepan get more TOI than any other forward?
Well I specifically stated a healthy Hanzal but either way I stand by my statement. Sure he'd miss 15 games a year or so but Hanzal was highly effective when in the lineup. Unfortunately the 15 games a year tradeoff is no longer a thing as his healthy has really taken a bad turn (as most of us expected).I take Stepan over Hanzal and it's not even close IMO. Hanzal brings a lot of those other attributes you listed but they aren't so valuable when he can't stay in the lineup.
Well I specifically stated a healthy Hanzal but either way I stand by my statement. Sure he'd miss 15 games a year or so but Hanzal was highly effective when in the lineup. Unfortunately the 15 games a year tradeoff is no longer a thing as his healthy has really taken a bad turn (as most of us expected).
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I wouldn't have done things the same way all the time but that's mostly the long and short of it.
I had largely the same opinion under the last regime too when our PP was dreck. It's mostly a personnel issue in that we ain't got any. Sure the schemes could probably be better but I'd guess that's half the problem at absolute most. Under the last PP coach (can't even remember his name at the moment) when our PP was good and people liked him it was fine, until it wasn't and we traded half our roster. His scheme didn't get crappier it was mostly the players getting crappier.
What I'm looking for in terms of internal improvement on the PP isn't necessarily scoring it's having the damn puck inside the zone more and longer. Scoring will naturally follow. That *should* be fixable and probably is a coaching issue more so than a personnel one.
Despite the reputation some of us garnered during the last coach, I'm not a coach blamer by nature.
Certainly we're not a good scoring team 5 on 5 (dead last). It stands to reason our PP is probably not going to be good no matter what scheme we run or players we put out. In that sense we're already outkicking our coverage being 25th in PP but 31st in even strength scoring.
I hope so. Love gally, always has. Hope he stays a Coyote for a long time!Would Galchenyuk take this same deal? I’d offer it.